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Boulder News Forum - May 12, 1997 Thread: "Jameson will not be back" |
This is the actual thread dated May 12, 1997 from the Boulder News Forum titled, "Jameson will not be back" which was the day after the "Mother's Day" chat log that outted Jameson as a woman and set the history for all the various stories that have been posted over that years that others said she told them.
they crucified him last night. that is a vicious group of heartless bitches. i hope they all had nightmares. jameson, your pain is my pain and your friendship i will miss.
Bullshit! IT fried his/her self with lies. jameson is a pathological liar. Are we bitches because we could no longer tolerate the lies? IT will be back under a different hat. Simply put, jameson was rubbing our noses in his/her lies, and we said enough!
jameson lied needlessly, but insisted anything he/she/it did was not its fault. There is no need to go into details, but those who stood up for this person many a time are the vicitms here, not jameson. Jmaeson played a vicious game, and it blew up in his/her/it's face.there is no need to ever return here, go to all the other forums and play games.
(Windsor) Faxon, what happened tonight is
that I told Jameson it was time to tell
the truth about his "secret" identity.
that of being a female. It was getting
out... lots of people knew. And he/she
was starting to really enjoy the whole
game. Jameson refused to do it. This all
went on in a dcc chat. I said if he
didn't, I would. And I did. Then he
blamed it all on me, said I had betrayed
him/her, and it went from there. She
started telling her childhood s
Let me, if I may, set the record straight right off the bat:
We have been a group for quite some time, and we share a lot of personal information -- hence, we have come to know each other as cyber-friends.
For a long time, I thought I was communicating with another guy -- a guy who met his wife in high school, had kids and loved to take them on outings and camping, etc.
All the while, I was being fooled.
Now I know this is "cyberspace" and just about anything goes. If someone wants to be someone else, they can do so.
But I DO feel that I've had the wool pulled over my eyes on this one. And a lot of people took it personally -- and I do not blame them.
NO ONE persecuted Jameson. Lets not bend and twist this story. Whatever Jameson got, he/she or whatever had it coming.
It's called Justice -- and it was served on a silver platter last night.
Topp
I never tried to determine, nor do I care, what sex Jameson is. Make's no difference to me. I like to read what Jameson post. You can't lie in posting a "theory", and I admire his/her intelligent comments.
Don't always agree with other posters, but it is very interesting to read any intelligent post. If Jameson doesn't come back to this forum, I for one, think it will be a big loss.
Crucified??? I didn't see you coming to the defense of that sick individual. Maybe you aren't the friend that you profess to be.
I haven't posted here in a long time but this thread was just too tempting since I was fortunate enough to witness Jameson's pififul attempt to cover her lies with more lies and dramatic fantasy. I now have a better understanding of the true sickness that has consumed this person.
The thing that upsets me the most has nothing to do with gender. I could care less about the sex of Jameson. The part that angers me to no end is that I heard no remorse for the deception that she so diligently documented on every available space on the Internet. I heard no apology to the people who have stood by her when no one else would, nor did I hear a reasonable explanation for why she chose to lie about virtually every aspect of her life. All I heard a whole lot of blame and a whole lot of bullshit. Still laughing!!!!!!
Jams/Jameson is the same person as Windsor, who is the same person as.......who is the same person as........and it goes on and on and on just like that crazy pink rabbit. NoraNora was right on when she said the trouble with Jameson was that he/she was a control freak.
Jams/Jameson is the same person as Windsor, who is the same person as.......who is the same person as........and it goes on and on and on just like that crazy pink rabbit. NoraNora was right on when she said the trouble with Jameson was that he/she was a control freak.
Jams/Jameson is the same person as Windsor, who is the same person as.......who is the same person as........and it goes on and on and on just like that crazy pink rabbit. NoraNora was right on when she said the trouble with Jameson was that he/she was a control freak.
(ToppCat) well, now it's out
My dear friends. I really don't care that Jameson is a woman. I spoke to her on the phone awhile back. ( sorry jams to break your trust but the truth needs to be told. ) All of you who flame her hear this. She is a bright, thoughtful, smart woman. she has been a victim of abuse/attack and has a stalker after her. ( she has lived in fear and moved out of state due to this person) thus when it was assumed she was male ( due to her unemotional responses) she never corrected them. she then carefully picked her words to not
lie but to not give away her identity. then after some idiot posted her address she was afraid wouldn't you be if somone had been stalking your family and threatening to kill you or your family. ( the people who posted her personal information never thought about the fact this wa s a real person , with a life and a family ) Because she has a professional backround and is very clear cut... she took alot of shit.. yes she was wrong to let the innocent deceiving go on. but that in itself is minimal compared to the rest of the harrassement she took back.. just for having an opinion that was different. I think you would be hard pressed to find a mean attack back from her on these threads. ( oh sure there are imitations few of us have escaped them) Next time you want to make trouble or persecute someone.. think about the fact that we are real here. some of us have a hard time in our life, sick children or spouses, financial woes etc.. have a heart. The only reason i will not put my regular post is that I don't want the vicious flaming. Go ahead Murphy call me a coward. Be self assured about why anyone would not want to post their real information. then ask yourself if you had been a victim of a stalker int he past and he was after you... would you be so free witht he information.
Why do I get the feeling this is all BS?
Jameson with the eyeglasses, the person that posts all over the internet, the person whose ISP account in North Carolina is registered to two people (a man and a woman), is actually a woman?
The person who homeschools, gives recipes for freezing bugs in resin, repeats himself over and over and hardly ever gives any personal details and resides in a closed chat room on NewNet SUDDENLY went over to DALNET and spilled her guts? Made a gender change? Are you guys really that desperate for interaction or entertainment?
At least please quit posting these stupid logs on the main threads. THIS is your thread. Stick to it. PLEASE. The forum is already sick and feeling poorly.
More, thanks for posting this. Don't know how
you did it so I'm in awe right there but also, you
did a great service to those of us who were not in-
volved in that coversation. What a neat forum where
you can instantly talk back and forth. It must be
one of the irc things? From all the posts I've seen
here regarding irc I have not been inclined to try it.
Wish I had last night, tho' as I would've had things
to say! Would be nice if "Jameson/jams" could come to
the forum with hat in hand and be totally honest. I
will say that I have been and will continue to be and
expect no less from others...including Jameson who lied
and misrepresented her identity and played a game while
constantly flaming others. I find her actions beneath
reproach and I feel decieved and wonder what someone's
motivation would be to deliberately mislead, truly no
defense and it was all with knowledge and forthought.
I feel a sense of betrayal. And it goes beyond Jameson,
it goes also to those who enabled her to lie and trick
and conive. Those of you who knew are guilty too. Shame
on you! Why did you know and remain silent and enable
the bogus hat/sex/game/ideas/attitudes to continue?
Me thinks you perhaps got a perverse pleasure yourself?
Kudos to those who are honest and to the degree that
you exposed Jameson for the total deception I thank you.
To those who enabled her for so long it is another
deception and makes me doubt your veracity as well.
This all makes me feel shoddy, cheap and easily deceived
and duped...all negative feelings...along with gulllible
and stupid. So what have I gotten involved in and am I
just ignorant? Lots of the theories of "Jameson" were
bright and interesting and logical. Too bad they now
carry no weight for we are simply dallying in make believe.
I had thought this something grander than that.
Was I wrong again? Perhaps I should rethink the time
and energy I have spent on these threads and put my
time to better use. The more I think of it the worse
I feel.
To someone who cares !
Give us a break ! If this jameson person was SO
scared of a stalker, and all the info he/she gave
to people, it wouldn't be hard to figure he/she
out ! If jameson is really telling the truth
about his/her abuse, I truely feel bad for he/she
BUT, as far as the others who knew this, you
yourselves having also been lying, by STILL
letting others believe.
In my humble, yet accurate opinion, Jameson has a legitimate need to unburden him/herself. Disclosing an abusive past is often the first step to recovery. I will never know whether s/he is telling the truth, s/he may not know either. I doesn't matter very much at this point. Jameson needs professional help. This is not intended as a flame. By encouraging (or responding to) Jameson to vent on this forum or any other discussion vehicle, you are enabling Jameson to continue with his/her "acting out" behavior instead of seeking competent help.
Again, this post is not intended as a flame. Rather as a plea to ignore Jameson and more or less force him/her to seek the type of help that is truly needed and would be beneficial.
In my humble, yet accurate opinion, Jameson has a legitimate need to unburden him/herself. Disclosing an abusive past is often the first step to recovery. I will never know whether s/he is telling the truth, s/he may not know either. I doesn't matter very much at this point. Jameson needs professional help. This is not intended as a flame. By encouraging (or responding to) Jameson to vent on this forum or any other discussion vehicle, you are enabling Jameson to continue with his/her "acting out" behavior instead of seeking competent help.
Again, this post is not intended as a flame. Rather as a plea to ignore Jameson and more or less force him/her to seek the type of help that is truly needed and would be beneficial.
I assume that if you don't know or are not interested in Jameson, you will not be reading this thread.
To those to whom jameson spoke in confidence on whatever subject..I respect you for keeping that confidence. I feel much better for that. You did me no dis-service..you have re-established my belief that there are those who stick by their word.
Windsor..The above comment was not directed in anyway to you. I know that you discussed this matter with jameson before you said anything to anybody.
It seems to me that when many people are told of a confidence and instructed to keep it to themselves, it ceases to be a confidence. To their credit, those whom I consider friends did not mention anything about jameson to me, even though I continually expressed reservation about him. Windsor even got on my butt one time when she thought I was out of line with a statement I made and she was right to do so.
Jameson, these people had respect for you and it seems that you have no respect for them..that's the really sad part. It's not the lies and deciet, this is the internet, it is the lack of respect for those you feel you come to know.
I recently had a small health problem, and I can't tell you how much support and good wishes I got from my friends here. Of course, I have a family and friends, but this forum and chat is just another plus in my life. I always know that I can come here and get a good laugh, or get my brain working on analyzing this case. Those that disagree with me make me think.
Jams, I still believe you are a male..what I think doesn't make any difference...What does make a difference is I don't believe, and have never believed, that you care one iota about anyone but yourself. That's ok....as long as I know it..our relationship will be just fine.
I suspected long ago that jameson was really a woman. Too many aspects of the story did not add up. I have heard quite a few yarns on the Internet. However, jameson constantly claimed to be telling the truth about everything. I think this has been just one big game to her. I do not think she was even that sincere about the Ramsey defense. She just took the opposite side early on and stubbornly refused to even see a possibility that the Ramseys might be guilty. It was all ego with her, and she enjoyed making others upset or angry. She was behind much of the flaming of me, early on. It is hard for me to feel sorry for jameson. When you practice deceit, it usually catches up with you. We all have a right to privacy. But jameson was and is a game player. It is seldom appreciated in real life or online.
She will be back though. This is her addiction. She cannot do without it. If not this forum, some other. If not this game, some other. She likes to fool people. And she likes to make enemies by arguing and putting forth ideas that really make little sense. Now that even the Ramseys are claiming a "well-dressed adult" did this, her theory is sinking. Her ego will not let her hang around for that.
I thought this forum was suppose to be about the Ramsey case - not the "Jameson Case" - who cares if he/she is gone or whatever. Lets get on with the Ramsey case!!!!!!
I thought this forum was suppose to be about the Ramsey case - not the "Jameson Case" - who cares if he/she is gone or whatever. Lets get on with the Ramsey case!!!!!!
Who is Jameson? What is their connection to JBR? Can someone explain?
Hi,
Personally, I am happy to say that whether or not
Jameson is a man/woman/it has not affected my life
one iota. No one here is perfect (although some
hold themselves up to be), so if Jameson is that
messed up, ignore him/her/it. Take his/her/it's
posts for what value they add to the forum, or don't
read them at all. It sounds like some people are
personally offended because they considered Jameson
a "friend" - Welcome to Cyberspace - where all things
are "possible". Use this as a lesson for future
such "friendships". And of course, we have that
group of folks who are just waiting to pounce on
someone for something, anything - whether it be
simple as spelling/grammar or whether it be a more
complex issue such as identity. I don't know
Jameson, I've read many of his/her posts, and while
they seem intelligently written, I don't agree with
much he/she says. But who cares? If those of
you who cannot forgive what Jameson may or may not
have done, then don't respond. Why waste your time
on someone you cannot agree with? It seems that
Jameson is one mixed up kid and I feel sorry for
him/her that she/he is such a mess. Beyond that,
it's not worth it...think about it.
There is NO ONE on this forum who is worth the effort
of "crucifying" except of course, the killer(s) of
JonBenet (and I'm sure they, or their representatives
do some lurking). God rest her soul.
to confused: jameson was not connected to the case in any way, but merely a cybergeek who took these opinion forums way too seriously. lonliness makes people do weird things.
What in the holy h*** are you all yapping about re. Jameson and his/her gender? Did I miss something over the weekend, and if I did, why has this forum turned into a kindergarden class with everyone picking on the funny little kid in the corner with the glasses?
Surprised to see the return of Teacher, if it is indeed her, and I certainly remember the mountains of vitriolic, senseless drubbing he/she took...you're right, poster above somewhere. We all know there are lonely and perhaps disturbed ppl on the old internet, and why fuel the fire?
About the Ramsey case---and frankly not interested. It has been a deeply disturbing case that appears to be going nowhere, don't trust the DNA will do diddly-squat, and I'm going to devote my time to work and my family (five kids). May post occasionally, but my heart's not it anymore---
To say that the incoherent postings above are a rather blatant example of the puerile,hebephrenic
cult of the personality that goes on on the Internet day after day, would only be to state
the obvious.
What incredibly sick individuals. They lurk,
they wear a hundred different hats, they love
to watch others talk about them.
You people are so pathetic. A whole world to
live in and grow, and yet you spend all your time and energy trying to get the attention of a
keyboard.
The only surprise left is that all of you haven't
bored yourselves to death yet. Or, maybe you have.
The expression, "...get a life," was never so
appropriate.
Afraid to use your real names, attempting to impress the other moronic anal sphincters who
inhabit this netherworld of how cultured you
are, how witty you are, how droll you are.
How pathetic you are.
To say that the incoherent postings above are a rather blatant example of the
puerile,hebephrenic
cult of the personality that goes on on the Internet day after day, would only be to state
the obvious.
What incredibly sick individuals. They lurk,
they wear a hundred different hats, they love
to watch others talk about them.
You people are so pathetic. A whole world to
live in and grow, and yet you spend all your time and energy trying to get the attention of a
keyboard.
The only surprise left is that all of you haven't
bored yourselves to death yet. Or, maybe you have.
The expression, "...get a life," was never so
appropriate.
Afraid to use your real names, attempting to impress the other moronic anal sphincters who
inhabit this netherworld of how cultured you
are, how witty you are, how droll you are.
How pathetic you are.
I don't notice your "real" name anywhere, and who are you to judge others? You are here. You obviously know something about it. Maybe you are talking to yourself, as much as to others on the forum. If you do not like it here, go elsewhere.
But you will find hypocrites, liars, pretenders, pranksters, etc. everywhere. As well as some nice, normal people.
Just like here.
One of the most interesting aspects of Cyber life is the ability to be whoever you want, creating your own history over and over again if that is what you choose.
I applaud those who are brave enough to be who they really are for the unseen masses. But there are many crazies among the masses and I am not willing to take that risk. Sorry.
And whoever betrays personal information about another should be kicked til they're black and blue! Shame on you.
As a person who has been the victim
of abuse it saddens me to think that
someone with a real problem wouldn't
get help. And if the person is faking
abuse in order to cover a lie, please
stop now. It's an insult to those of
us who have really suffered. I do
post here once in awhile but prefer
to make this plea anonymously. Have
a heart and get help if you need it,
Jameson.
Lar, and anyone else who came to this thread to tell me how pathetic I am.
I thought the title of this thread read "jameson will not return".
I'm going to have to go back and check. It may have read "Latest News On Ramsey Case".
Is Lar attacking ALL members of the forum? I doubt it, Ruthie. I think Lar was referring to the Jameson mess. Lar has put some good posts on here and you have also, Ruthie.
If you'll think about it, Lacking All Respect for the other cyber individual's opinion has been always been LAR's nom de guerre.
go back and look at the archives....the vault is full of these poison keyboard artists.
I always thought jameson was a husband-and-wife partnership. I don't care whether he leaves or stays, nor do I care to believe or disbelieve the confidences on this board. The topic of this forum is the case, and would prefer to keep it that. If you wish to scream out for help, there are plenty of chat areas and newsgroups where you can find sincere people for help (if you are indeed sincere). Coming here is a bit like yelling for help on a street corner.
MWOH -- I too think of this forum as solely a place to discuss the case. I do not come here to make friends or to reveal or hear "confidences." I prefer to choose my friends on a "face-to-face" basis that at least allows me a fair shot at evaluating their character because I can "look them in the eye."
I am puzzled by the apparent outrage by some that jameson may not have been what he/she claimed to be. Once again, it illustrates a certain naivete about the ways of the internet. It is truly a medium where anyone can be anything or many things...
This is not to condemn people who choose to build "friendships" in cyberspace. However, if you choose this medium, then you must be prepared for the many disappointments that may result.
We are all on the ship of fools. How foolish it is when fingers are pointed at each other in accusations. Of what consequence are the words that come through the telephone wire and come before you. Do you believe everything you read? Would you allow a stranger to come into your house and throw their opinions and personal baggage all over the place? Would you let them rob you of that which is personal and valuable to you? How easily the rules of prudence are overlooked on this medium. How easily words can assault and rob ....and the door is left wide open in invitation.
Gee, I wish I'd said that.
Now, about this Jameson issue...What difference
does it make if she lies or tells the truth about
anything? This is the internet...trust NO ONE.
If you set yourself up to consider yourself
"friends" with someone on the web, you are a fool.
Now, about this Jameson issue...What difference
does it make if she lies or tells the truth about
anything? This is the internet...trust NO ONE.
If you set yourself up to consider yourself
"friends" with someone on the web, you are a fool.
Now, about this Jameson issue...What difference
does it make if she lies or tells the truth about
anything? This is the internet...trust NO ONE.
If you set yourself up to consider yourself
"friends" with someone on the web, you are a fool.
Observer, you are so right. I, too am tired of the
mean flames by those twisted little souls
who get their jollies that way.
On the other hand, I now feel much less naive about some of my fellow human beings - if you can call them that.
Still, aren't you glad you're NOT one of them? If life dealt you some brains and sensitivity, unlike those sorry bastards, you're the lucky one.
Jameson dumped a whole lot of tripe on this forum and gets no sympathy from me.
Jon Ramsey and the graphic symbols stand for Access Graphics. This individual's position on the what happened to JonBenet just didn't add up. I think it was stated one time the JonBenet had a fake vigina.
Jameson will leave the forum, yeah right, have they also taught pigs how to fly yet?
Lets talk about the case and if you don't like what someone says, well use your scroll key for the intended purpose. It is an opinion forum now a guess the poster.
I found this forum a week ago. You see, I've only had a computer for 3 weeks now. I am in my 50's and was excited to learn these dang things. I am disappointed in this forum. I too am interested in the JBR case and thought this would be newsworthy. Unfortunately, I could go to the grade school here and find more respect for others. Flaming is something I had only heard about until finding this forum. I've read where others would like those of us who visit here to make comments. Well, this will probably be my only comment. I did not come here to make friends or get into others life history (true or not). I also did not come to this forum to hear flaming about people I do not know or probably ever get to know. I have no desire to go to the archives and read about this person who has disappointed so many of you.
If this is not going to be about the Ramsey case then I guess I will look elsewhere. The rest of you who are regulars can cry on each other's shoulder and flame each other to your hearts content.
Friggin' newbie...go soak your inflated head.
I have to ask this---is Jameson the person who posted the terrible porn junk on here about---oh 4-6 weeks ago? The Teacher/Jayne character? It's kind of a need-to-know-the-worst thing.
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(jams) The truth is that there should be no
divisions in her, not sex, age, race,
religion, handicaps, nothing but minds
(Lori9999) why did you lie about it?
(HomeSch) I am floored too
(Windsor) or think straight
(LogicBox) jams, you dink
(ruthee) jams if that is true, why don't you
just tell us..it's no big deal.
(Tannest) Then why ie and say I AM A GENTLEMAN
(LogicBox) you're a woman, so the hell what?
(Windsor) Well, Jams, that might be true...
but the way to do that is not to claim to
be a man when you are really a woman.
(LogicBox) does that hurt anything?
(LizzieB) good grief
(LH1) I was fooled for a long time
(Windsor) What does it matter, Jameson, if
you are a man or a woman...
(LogicBox) yeah, really
(jams) The truth is that there should be no
divisions in her, not sex, age, race,
religion, handicaps, nothing but minds
(Tannest) Then dont lie
(LogicBox) don't make me call and ask
(LogicBox) hehe j/k
(LizzieB) But it's a trust issue
(Tannest) Logic!
(Tannest) Be quiet
(Tannest) :)
(LogicBox) I was joking :)
(Lori9999) i don't care if you are a man or a
woman, i just don't like to be lied to.
* Tannest pinches Logic
(genie2) ?
(Tannest) Genie
(Windsor) Jams, THE TRUTH IS THERE SHOULD BE
TRUTH HERE... AND YOU WERE LYING TO
EVEYRONE, AND IT CAUSED SUSPICION ON
EVERYONE'S PART.
(Tannest) Did you know?
(ruthee) logic, don't make me laugh
(genie2) mlas
* LogicBox bites Tannest :)
(Tannest) LOL
(jams) The point is that there should be no
divisions in here, not sex, age, race,
religion, handicaps, nothing but minds
(Tannest) Oh my God
(ToppCat) jams you're sounding like Ted
(Tannest) He's really a BOT!!!!
(LogicBox) james, you dink, just admit it and
let everybody be happy
(Lori9999) you should fucking lie to people
who are supposed to be your friends either.
(LogicBox) jams
(LizzieB) If there should be no divisions,
jams, why did you set yourself up as a
male?
(ruthee) Jams..if you are a female, I will
feel better, because then I'll know what
was in the pit of my stomach
(Lori9999) shouldn't, i mean
(Texas1) jams..the point is you have lied
about your family and your part in their
life
(jams) No, What did I tell you about the name
jameson
(Windsor) Jameson, get out of here until you
can talk like a real person. You're
totally out of control, and you have
brought all of this on yourself. ALl of
it.
(ruthee) jams....I don't care what sex you are
(LogicBox) who says I should kick jams for
being a lying dink?
*** LH1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
(LogicBox) not ban, just kick :)
(Tannest) No
(LogicBox) (I'm bored, ok?)
(Tannest) Logic
*** LH2 (~LH@net-7-200.austin.eden.com) has
joined #boulderforum
(Tannest) :)
(LH2) damn
(Windsor) Hi LH
(LogicBox) let's VOTE!
(LogicBox) hehe
(Tannest) NO
(ToppCat) No don't kick him/her
(Tannest) hehe
(ruthee) no don't kick him
(LogicBox) j/k :)
*** LizzieB sets mode: +o Windsor
(ruthee) please
(LH2) I ALWAYS MISS THE GOOD STUFF :(
(jams) No, What did I tell you about the name
jameson
(Tannest) Logic, seriously.... Be good
(Timex) No....don't kink
(blugene) no what's BOT ???
(genie2) Dont kick or ban him please.not now
(Texas1) tell us Jamesomn
(LH2) mo banning pleas
(Tannest) What did you post today about being
a Gentleman?
(Tannest) And taking the best Mom out?
(Timex) Jameson....Why did you lie and say
you were a man....Here is your chance to
set the record straight......
(Tannest) (blugene a BOT is a Robot)
(LogicBox) I think jams is one of those
two-way type people
(Windsor) Jams, I don't care if four months
ago you never said you were a man... and
that people assumed it. I have logs and
logs and logs of Cybersleuths conversation
where you have lied consistently about
being a man. Just today you did.
(ToppCat) Jams, you told me all about meeting
your wife in school, your kids and how you
like to take them camping, Jesus.
(jams) There is so much going on here -
(LH2) jameson, the problem is you made your
sex an issue, you perpetuated the falseness
(LogicBox) jams swings fruity
(NoraNora) Yeah, tell us Jameson. Just come
clean!!!
(Windsor) Jams, tell the truth... it will set
you free. I promise
(jams) Not the time or place for it all and
the pieces...
(genie2) ?
(Tannest) Not the time to tell the truth?
(Lori9999) oh yes this is the perfect time
and place.
(jams) Windsor - you broke a promise and I
have to really think about that one...
(Texas1) jams..who did you start out as on
the Threads?
(ruthee) Jams, I don't care if you are a man,
woman, straight gay or whatever, just be
up front with everyone
(Windsor) Jams, a simple statement would be
fine... something like "I am a woman"
would do it.
(Windsor) You don't have to explain why.
(Timex) I am upset that you lied Jams...I
will give you this one last chance to tell
me, personally why you have lied for 4
months
(NoraNora) No time like the present.
(LH2) why is this not the time or place, when
we have been conversing with you for
months, and might I add defending you?
(Timex) Windsor told the truth to alot of
people who really have trusted each other
for 4 months.....Hats off to Windsor
Jams.......
(jams) No, look at the wording - I started
out saying nothing, everyone assumed I was
a man and I carefully worded everything
(Lori9999) don't try to blame this on windsor
(Tannest) But you have lied since then jams
(jams) look at the posts
(Windsor) Jams, I don't care if you are mad
at me. I am doing you a favor. I held on
to your secret for well over a month. ANd
every day new people were coming to me and
telling me that YOU told them. Half of
them knew it. Half didn't. In the
meantime, you lied to everyone. So don't
get mad at me... you brought this on
yourself. I simply told the truth. Why
don't you try the same.
(Tannest) It may have started out as a
misconception
(Tannest) But you continued it
(Texas1) jams..do you have a family?
(jams) No Windsor - you have done me no
favors - none at all.
(LH2) agreed in the begining jameson, but you
have participated explicitly lately
(LogicBox) WIndosr: gee, I knew for 3 or 4
months
(NoraNora) The trouble with you jameson is
that male or female, you are a control
freak.
(jams) Yes, I can tell you that - a happy
marriage of 28 years, the three kids are
true -
(ruthee) LOL Nora...you tell um
(Tannest) What 3 kids?
(Tannest) You said two
(Lori9999) why are trying to blame your
problem on windsor?
(jams) No, a married daughter, a 19 yr old
son and an 8 yr old
(Tannest) Oh
(genie2) Well,I guess that I am the only one
in here that isn't a bit surprised and I
was told nothing by anyone.
(Tannest) I never heard about the older son
(NoraNora) me either
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(Timex) I guess you are choosing not to
answer my question Jams....why?????
(jams) He was there - he lives in VA and is
not in and out of the house so I spoke of
him less, that is all
(Texas1) Do we really KNOW if jams is male or
female? Lies beget lies
(jams) I am female
(Timex) why
(ToppCat) well, jams, I've got to hand it to
ya. I'm in shock, but I'm not mad.
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(HomeSch) I just feel bad for jameson.
(NoraNora) Why the masquerade, jameson?
(Windsor) Jams, I agree with the person above
who said "don't blame it on Windsor". I
am not the one to blame... it was getting
to be a big game with you, and it was
getting worse every day. You were having
fun saying things like "I try to be a
gentleman". It was all a crock. I
personally do not care if you ever speak
to me again. But these people, your
friends, do deserve to know that you are a
woman.
(jams) No, the participating came after
others found out and sometimes
(Timex) Jams.....there may be a very good
reason why you wanted us to think you were
a man.....I just would like to know that
reason
(genie2) Is everyone on here completely
honest at all times????
* LogicBox pulls out the Skillz
(Timex) I am genie.....
(Tannest) LOGIC!!!!
(LogicBox) oops
(Windsor) I am
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(jams) I have to leave now - I will not be
back
(Lori9999) yes, i am. i have no reason to lie.
(LogicBox) wrong channel ro something
(LogicBox) hehe
(HomeSch) I am
* LogicBox says HI JAMS! :)
(ToppCat) jams, don't
(LogicBox) jams
(Windsor) you chicken shit, Jameson
(blugene) don't do that
(LogicBox) du0d
(ToppCat) JAMS, DON'T
(LogicBox) stay here
(ruthee) Well genie, I have to tell you that
I am..but maybe it's because I'm a little
older
(LH1) jameson, I am so sorry you feel that
way and cannot deal with this
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(jams) I did speak to people about the case
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(jams) Boulder people
(NoraNora) Oh jesus, jams you are so heavily
into your own denial, why should we
believe anything you say.
(jams) Don 't Nora - I don't need that from
anyone
(genie2) I believe,now let her continue.
(jams) that was not why I ever came
(ToppCat) go on, jams
(Timex) Alright Jams.....we have been
together for 4 months....every single
day.....who are you?
(jams) I saw the night - that was why I came
(Tannest) You what?
(jams) Timex - what do you want to know
(ToppCat) you saw the night?
(Lori9999) scuse me?
(HomeSch) You mean in a psychic sense?
(jams) I don't know
(ToppCat) wow
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(jams) but I had to follow the case -
(Lori9999) you saw the night, explain
(Timex) People know Timex as a mom of 3
children...lives in Massachusetts......etc.
, etc.,
(Timex) Who are you?
(Texas1) jams what did you "see" that night?
(jams) I have never done anything like this -
mothers intuition but not llike this
(jams) I can't say it - it was like a fog
thing -
(genie2) Jams,who did you think I was?
(jams) but this was before I ever came in here - or on the computer
(jams) I was in the shower
(jams) genie?
(ToppCat) like a vision?
(jams) No, like a memory
(jams) very upsetting
(jams) I really do not know what to say
(jams) I am not psychic
(ToppCat) interesting. JBR's killing was like
you were remembering something?
(jams) But it was because of the past - the
pedophile I knew was a stalker too
(genie2) jams,excuse me but could you
elaborate a mite more on the snakes and
the barn?
(jams) that is very upsetting - what do you
want to kn ow
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(genie2) Everything that you would like to
share with me.
(Lori9999) upsetting to me is how you can
worship at the foot of the killers
everyday if what you are telling us is
true.
(Tannest) It makes no sense jams/sue
(jams) I said it - he hurt me - tortured me
in many ways - snakes were something I
feared and he used them
(Tannest) ?
(ToppCat) That's why you can't picture the
parents, isn't it jams. Becuase of your
past history with a predator yourself.
(jams) the Ramseys are innocent
(Edge) ?
(jams) No - hell no
(genie2) were you bit?
(jams) no
(jams) cut
(Edge) Based on Douglass
(jams) and burn ed
(Timex) with a cigarette?
(jams) yes
(Edge) ?
(blugene) then why is it you don't think R's
did it?
(genie2) Edge what are you talking about?
(Tannest) How can that assure you they didn't
do it though?
(jams) ask now guys - I don't think I will be
back and I want you to hear it from me
(ruthee) jams you seem to think that this has
something to do with your views on this
case..I can understand someone who thinks
that they are innocent, they may well
be...why all the lies...it just doesn't
make sense.
(jams) No, I felt the killer as he was in the
basement -
(Edge) John Douglass - FBI Behavioural
Science Profiling
(Timex) Jams.....did you talk on the phone to
Hmmmmm
(jams) yes
(Tannest) jams, I think we all can feel we
can see our scanario
(Timex) was he shocked?
(Tannest) I know I can think about it and see
Patsy doing it?
(Tannest) Where is the difference?
(genie2) jams,what in the hell do you want us
to ask,just talk,you have the floor and
our undivided attention.
(jams) no Tannest - that is what I saw before
reading anything - just hearing the first
newa
(ToppCat) agreed, genie
(Tannest) I don't see any difference still
jams
(jams) genie -
(genie2) yes?
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(jams) I am not related to Ramsey - n ever
heard of them before this
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(ToppCat) Lisa!
(jams) not working for them
(genie2) On this I believe.
(faxon_) whoever left that note on the
threads thanks
(Lori9999) i want to know what the hell makes
you think they are innocent when everything
(Tannest) How many hours a day do you spend
posting on all the various forums?
(Lori9999) points to them
(ruthee) jams, when you say "just ask" my red
flag goes up again..we ask..you tell
another "story"...stop it.
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(jams) too much Tannest - and the thoughts
wake me at night
(jams) ruthee - I gave names and dates
earlier - verify whatever you want
(Tannest) Maybe you are seeing a different
crime jams?
(LH1) Lisa, you came in on the middle of
something, just listen for a while and
then we'll catch you up
(NoraNora) And your husband, jams, where is
he?
(genie2) jams,keep on trucking,cause my
profile is getting more clear each moment.
(jams) genie - fuck your profile - I won't be
here to know
(Tannest) Maybe what you are seeing is the
murder of one of the other missing
children???
(jams) Jim is right here
(genie2) Bad attitude!
(jams) no -
(blugene) was you abuser ever caught
(ToppCat) hold on now jams, lets all take a
breather here
(LH1) jams, no offense but names and dates
mean nothing as far as the veracity of
your story
(jams) he said her name
(Tannest) Because your theory and visions
don't correlate in the least with the known
facts
(Lori9999) agree tannest totally
(LogicBox) Tannest
(LogicBox) hi :)
(jams) LH - I said to verify my personal story
(Lori9999) so who did you see? who is the
killer?
(genie2) How can we verify your personal
story?
(LH1) whether you held that position and had
a brother die in Vietnam says nothing
about what you are saying now
(jams) I know no name
(ruthee) jams, why don't you change your name
to something gender neutral..post your
opinions and go on with your views on chat
and the theads...Personally, I am not
interested in anymore "history" on why you
have posted in the past.
(Tannest) Why would we want to?
(jams) no, I have to go
(genie2) jams,that word you used f was the
first nasty word that you have used on
here.
(Texas1) Tannest...sorry but I disagree...The
facts are too scarce to know what happened
that night
(jams) yes genie - did you think I couldn't
use them?
(jams) This was safe for me - but it doesn't
feel it now
(Lori9999) where were your parents during all
this burning and cutting etc.
(blugene) was your abuser caught?
(NoraNora) How about the restraining order
against you jams, TRUE?
(jams) My father was paralyzed and my m other
worked
(jams) restraining order for the car wash?
true
(ruthee) Oh GOD, when does it end!
(jams) so stupidd
(Timex) When you stabbed him did he die
(genie2) Well it doesnt fit what I had down
in your profile.but hey i can be a little
mistaken.I still dont believe that you use
them readially
(jams) no
(Lori9999) carwash????
(ToppCat) A car wash restraining order?
(ToppCat) lori
(LizzieB) ???
(ruthee) TC don't make me laugh
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scroll by
(Texas1) WHO put this on the Treads so
quickly? Think there is a spy among us
(jams) it was a stupid thing all around
(ToppCat) really, tex?
(ToppCat) oh boy
(jams) I believe it
(ruthee) This is on the theads...???
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