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[Caylee Anthony]Caylee Marie Anthony Missing Sunday, June 15, 2008 - Orlando, Florida

Age: 2, Caylee Anthony was reported missing by her grandmother, Cindy Anthony, on July 15, 2008. At that time Caylee's mother, Casey, said on the July 15, 2008 911 call that her daughter had been missing for "31 days." Date of disappearance is unknown at this point as the mother Casey is not cooperating with authorities
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CAYLEE ANTHONY CASE TRANSCRIPTS
Amy Huizenga INTERVIEW 07/23/2008 (Casey borrowed her car, stole her money)

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1 TAPED TRANSCRIPT OF AMY JENNIFER HUIZENGA
2 INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY CORPORAL EDWARDS
3 CASE NUMBER-08-074777
4 JULY 23, 2008
5 EE-CORPORAL WILLIAM "ERIC" EDWARDS
6 DR-DETECTIVE DOROTHY RIVERA
7 AH-MS.AMY JENNIFER HUIZENGA
8 EE: 7/23/08. Orange county Sheriff's Office interview room. It's uh, 3:51 p.m.
9 Corporal Eric Edwards, uh, Homicide. And also in the room?
10 DR: Detective Dorothy Rivera, Homicide.
11 EE: And?
12 AH: Amy Huizenga.
13 EE: Amy, you came in voluntary to assist us with a timeline, just knocking uhm, a full
14 timeline out about what you may have knowledge of in regards to missing
15 persons report. And I'd like to go back thought that real quick. If you don't mind
16 state your full name and [BLACKED OUT]
17 AH: Amy Jennifer Huizenga [BLACKED OUT]
18 EE: And for Gail, can you spell out your last name please?
19 AH: H-U-I-Z-E-N-G-A
20 DR: I was going to tell, I was going to tell you to do that (chuckles).
21 EE: Okay. You've already filed an Orlando Police report uhm, 08-307930 I believe it
22 was, in regards to theft of checks. And our Economics Unit is assisting with that.
23 Is that something you want to press charges for?
24 AH: Yes sir.
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1 EE: Okay. I want to go over these high low, highlighted uhm, notes first then we'll go
2 through the calendar book that we just filled out. First thing noted uhm, first I'd
3 like to go over your group of friends, the names that we're going to be referring
4 to
5 AH: Ricardo Morales, who is the ex-boyfriend of Casey, who I live with currently
6 Uhm, sleeping on their couch. And J.P. Chat, who I also live with, who is way
7 less involved in this story and didn't really like Casey to begin with. Uh, and Troy
8 Brown, who is my previous roommate up until about six weeks ago.
9 EE:Uh-hum (affirmative), Melissa?
10 AH: And Melissa. I do not know her last name, who is the girl that Troy is talking to
11 right now.
12 EE: And Will?
13 AH: And Will Waters, who is a good friend of mine. I work with him at Houlihan's.
14 EE: What's your address at Ricardo's?
15 AH: [BLACKED OUT]
16 EE: That's okay. So you've had contact with Casey's grandmother, or mother?
17 AH: Yes.
18 EE: And she, she, uh, found your flight papers, or some flight papers regarding your
19 Puerto Rico trip in, in the car?
20 AH: Right, not in the car. I think that was, that was the thing she called me about
21 yesterday. And she found it on a piece of paper somewhere. She didn't tell me
22 where she had found it.
23 EE: Okay, well, okay, we'll get into that calendar book. But you actually went to new
24 boyfriend Tony's apartment with grandma?
25 AH: Yes.

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1 EE: Uhm, with uh, in the effort to locate the child?
2 AH: Yes sir.
3 EE: And that, you were at the Florida Mall when you first received that phone call
4 from her?
5 AH: Yes sir.
6 EE: Okay, and that was all discussed already with another detective on, on a
7 recording?
8 AH: Yes.
9 EE: (Sighs) Casey always told you that her parents were crazy? Is that what you
10 said?
11 AH: Yes.
12 EE: She gave you the...
13 AH: I always wanted to meet them because I was planning on living with Casey and
14 her daughter and I, you know, I know my mom would want to know the person
15 that you know, me and if I had a daughter living with. And I'd been trying for
16 almost a month to meet her parents but something always came up.
17 EE: Can you tell me about the house issue where you were supposed to rent the
18 house with her?
19 AH: Uhm, she originally when I found out that my house was going to be sold hum,
20 told me that she was looking, oh, she was pretty much about to buy a place and
21 that you, I could move in with them. That you know, I was supposed to go
22 see the house with them a few times. It fell through, And then all of the sudden
23 great news, my mom is uhm, going to be signing the house over to me. She's
24 going to get a condo in Winter Park because my grandparents are going to be
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1 grandfather to be in then what they have in Mt. Dora. So you know, she's going
2 to move to this condo and then she's going to sign the house over to me and I'm
3 going to take over all the mortgage payments and then we can just move in
4 there. Great news because I don't have to move and blah, blah, blah, Casey can
5 stay in the place that she's been in and, or Caylee can be in the place that she's
6 been in and you know, that's awesome. And I was like, "Cool." So then...
7 EE: No when did that start?
8 AH: That (sighs), the first of it when we were uhm, going to be, you know, just moving
9 into a place that she was buying would have probably been mid-May I think is
10 when I found out the house, there had been an offer on the house.
11 EE: Okay.
12 AH: Maybe early May, but probably closer to mid-May. Uhm, and then, and a lot of
13 that stuff is on the text messages that I've provided. There is some stuff about us
14 talking about the housing situation.
15 EE: And we did, you don't, you gave us consent verbally to....
16 AH: I have, I've given all verbal consents to ....
17 EE: Far all of that off your phone?
18 AH: ...take anything off of my phone that would be of use.
19 EE: Someone with a uhm, little smarter that I would have had you sign something
20 probably. But as long as you gave me verbal uh....
21 AH: I give all permission to take anything off of there that you can use.
22 EE: Excellent. House talk mid-May?
23 AH: Uhm, and then it was probably early June-ish at, and it's on the text message
24 and I would confirm a date. It just, there's to many to go through to find it. Uhm,
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1 it was early June that, early to mid-June that uhm, the house was going to be
2 where she, her mom was going to be signing the house over to her.
3 EE: So you were planning on moving in there in June?
4 AH: I was planning on moving in there probably on like, I don't remember, uh, there is
5 so many dates that happened that I was supposed to move in and it didn't
6 happen like I, I don't know.
7 EE: Okay.
8 AH: A lot of that will be on the text messages, the actual dates of things. Uhm, but
9 things kept coming up. Various stuff happened. And then all of a sudden her
10 mom took it back because she apparently had thirty days to uh,negate the deal.
11 And then all of a sudden her parents were getting a divorce and all of this various
12 stuff. And was still going to look for an apartment. We were going to maybe
13 move in and do that, and blah,blah, blah. At this point I had already made other
14 arrangements, which also fell through. But that wasn't anyone's fault.
15 EE: Okay. You said also that, that last Thursday, which would be the 17th, you spoke
16 with Tony for about an hour and a half?
17 AH: Yes sir.
18 EE: Okay, we'll talk to that when we go through our timeline then. Babysitter. Have
19 you ever seen the babysitter?
20 AH: Never seen the babysitter. I've never spoken to the babysitter.
21 EE: What, ha..and you've heard Casey refer to the babysitter?
22 AH: As Zani.
23 EE: That's the name she uses?
24 AH: Yes.
25 EE: And there was another name you mentioned?

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1 AH: She told me the names and I don't, I couldn't at first remember when all of this
2 happened. But then after hearing the name uhm, it does sound like the name
3 that she told me. But Zani was what she always used except for the one time
4 that I questioned Zani the nanny.
5 EE: She ever describe her? No? Where she lived? Monies paying her?
6 AH: I never asked. It wasn't my business.
7 EE: You ever witness a phone call to her or from her?
8 AH: Not that I can recall.
9 EE: Okay, we're going to go, I'm going to , this is a highlighted point. We'll get to it
10 when we go through the calendar as well. But you mentioned uhm,
11 conversations regarding the smell of her car.
12 AH: Yes. Uhm...
13 EE: I'll, I'll tell you what.
14 AH: Do you want to (inaudible).
15 EE: Yeah (affirmative), because we won't, we don't need to make this thing longer
16 that it has to be. Alright, we'll go to the calendar book. The 14th of May, two flat
17 tires. Tell me about that.
18 AH: Uhm, that one uh, Ricardo and Troy will be able to talk to you more about later.
19 She told me about it uhm, later the next day she told me about it. Uhm, but that
20 she had, wasn't sure, but she's pretty sure she ran something over on the 408,
21 was trying to drive on it, couldn't, and then called Ricardo and Troy to come get
22 her and help.
23 EE: She had two flat tires though?
24 AH: Yes. What I ...
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1 EE: I think the big thing is Amy, Ricardo, Troy, and Casey went out that night,
2 right?
3 AH: Yes.
4 EE: Okay, so you're, we're establishing that's a core group of friends...
. 5 AH: That...
6 EE: ...pretty much.
7 AH: ...we're aware of. I mean she'd...
8 EE: (Inaudible)...
9 AH: ...obviously was going other places when she said she was at work.
10 EE: Okay, so from there, we zip all the way to the 24th of May because significant is
11 that's where you, Casey and Troy first met Tony?
12 AH: Yes.
13 EE: Tony's last name?
14 AH: Lazaro
15 EE: And before you went to the party you guys were, you and Casey and Troy were
16 at Buffalo Wings in Waterford?
17 AH: Yes sir.
18 EE: Okay, and you left that gathering and went to a party?
19 AH: At I believe the Villages on Science Drive.
20 EE: Okay. And Tony was the DJ, or what was he?
21 AH: He wasn't DJ'ing. Uhm, there was another person DJ'ing. While I was there
22 Tony and Casey were pretty much playing beer pong. Uhm, I was probably...
23 EE: beer pong?
24 AH: Yeah (affirmative). I was probably on there for maybe forty-five minutes
25 EE: What is beer pong?

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1 AH: Beer pong is a game where you set up a triangle of cups on two opposite sides
2 of a table and you try and throw a ping pong ball into the cups. If you make it in
3 the opposing team has to drink that cup. And the first you know, team to knock
4 out all the cups wins.
5 EE: I like it.
6 AH: It's a fun game.
7 EE: Yeah (affirmative).
8 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
9 EE: We'll have to play beer coffee in the morning.
10 AH: (Laughs).
11 DR: (Laughs).
12 AH: Pong, coffee pong.
13 DR: Coffee pong.
14 EE: The 25th, no clothing party at UCF area. Unknown friend by the name of, we
15 don't know, hosts the party?
16 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative). I know, I know some of the names of the people there but
17 I'm not quite sure who actually lived there.
18 EE: And there was a run-in at the time with a guy named Brandon?
19 AH: Yes.
20 EE: That she...
21 AH: Claimed she had a miscarriage with and it was a very emotional run-in. And she
22 was very, very, very upset at that point.
23 EE: You, Troy, and Casey went to that party?
24 AH: Yes sir.
25 EE: In Casey's car?

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1 AH: Yup (affirmative)
2 EE: And that was a uh, long, drawn out event?
3 AH: Yes.
4 EE: Crying?
5 AH: Crying.
6 EE: She was missing for an hour and a half?
7 AH: Yeah (Affirmative).
8 EE: Okay. Alright, if we need to get more of that we'll come back and get that. But
9 once again, a small group of people. Third time in that month hanging out
10 together. Uh, Ricardo, on the 30th uh, through conversation you know that
11 Ricardo said that Casey and the child stayed at the apartment?
12 AH: And that's what Ricardo said, yes.
13 EE: Okay. But you were in Tallahassee?
14 AH: Like yeah (affirmative), I was out of town.
15 EE: Okay. So I can follow up on that with Ricardo. You came back to town on
16 Sunday?
17 AH: Yup (affirmative).
18 DR: June, you're in the month of June now?
19 EE: The 1st, yes. Was uh, where were you staying at that time.
20 AH: At that time I was living in Oviedo with Troy.
21 EE: Okay.
22 AH: Uhm, I cam back from Tallahassee and pretty much dropped my stuff off and
23 went to go meet them. And we were going to go to Rock Star Karokee at
24 Voyage.
25 EE: Okay.

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1 AH: Uhm, I'm fairly certain that Casey was with Tony that night, but I'm not a hundred
2 percent about that.
3 EE: Because Amy, Ricardo, and Troy went out, but Casey wasn't there? Somebody
4 received a text saying she was already out, but unknown location? That's what
5 Jesse tells me.
6 AH: Yeah(affirmative), I'm not, I don't know who got that text. I was, I mean if it was
7 me you'll be able to see it because you have them all now.
8 EE: Okay. And then the 2nd of June is when Ricardo kind of finds out, they break,
9 she breaks the news about Tony?
10 AH: And she told me that as well on the 2nd.
11 EE: And there was, I have highlighted here a text.
12 AH: Uh-uhm (affirmative). And mine was, mine was a text too between her and me.
13 EE: Content?
14 AH: Uhm, I said that I made out with a boy last night and she said, "Me too."
15 EE: Okay. Moving forward to June 4th. Troy's party at Voyage, right?
16 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
17 EE: Casey comes with Tony and a couple friends is what uh, is being said. You
18 know for sure you saw a white male and Tony.
19 AH: Yes.
20 EE: And Casey? No, unknown who the fourth person may have been?
21 AH: No, but they were there for a very short period of time while I was there.
22 EE: Amy, Ricardo, Troy, friends at Troy's birthday party?
23 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
24 EE: The 5th, Troy's actual birthday?
25 AH: Yes.

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1 EE: Strip club?
2 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
3 EE: Amy, Ricardo, Troy, but no Casey?
4 AH: No.
5 EE: She's in the wind? She's hanging out with whoever?
6 AH: Probably with Tony, but we don't know that for sure.
7 EE: No baby? No, no child seen during any of this time?
8 AH: No.
9 EE: And alright, the 6th you total your car...
10 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
11 EE: ...coming back from downtown? But Casey tells you that her boy from work sent
12 her to Fusion to check...
13 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
14 EE: ...on her daughter?
15 AH: She actually does that. She was at work. Uhm, and then later the, the next day
16 she told met(sic) that
17 EE: Yeah (affirmative).
18 AH: ...her boss had actually sent her to Fusion to go check on uhm, his daughter and
19 we thought that was a little weird. But we were like whatever.
20 EE: So she admits to being at Fusion on the 6th?
21 AH: Yes, And then says that she went back to work after that.
22 EE: Uhm, uhm, you move in, or you started staying with Ricardo...
23 AH: On the 7th.
24 EE: ...on the couch, on the 7th? Saturday the 7th? And Casey was there because
25 you remember being picked on about your nose injury?

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1 AH: I'm, uh, yeah(affirmative), I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure. I mean if Ricardo's sure
2 that they were there. I remember them being around a lot in that, you know
3 when I first started staying there. Uhm, but I, I don't, I don't know for sure about
4 that. I kind of remember her making fun of me for it but everyone was making
5 fun of me for it because I kept hitting my nose.
6 EE: Okay, the 9th and the 10th, I have indicated in here that you, you recall that
7 Caylee and Ca...Cassie were both, Casey, were both at Ricardo's apartment?
8 AH: Yes.
9 EE: On the 9th? Stayed overnight. They got up early on the 10th?
10 AH: Uh-hum(affirmative). And I remember, I remember seeing Caylee on the 10th
11 leaving.
12 EE: And that's the last time you remember seeing that child?
13 AH: Yes.
14 EE: Uh, and even hearing her on the phone or anything? That the 10th is the last
15 time you can recall...
16 AH: In...
17 EE: ...any contact?
18 AH: ...thinking back, I don't, and I don't know for sure all. but there's a little bit of me
19 that things(sic) that I may have heard Caylee in the background on the 13th, but that
20 still fits with the 15th being the last time that she was seen. Because she had
21 talked to me for a while while I was in the car. And I kind of feel like I remember
22 hearing Caylee. But since that's after...
23 EE: But not, but not certain?
24 AH: No.
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1 EE: Okay, Troy's in Washington. Ricardo leaves for Tampa on the 12th. The 13th you
2 were suppose to go to Jacksonville uhm...
3 AH: With Casey.
4 EE: With Casey?
5 AH: And with Caylee.
6 EE: With all, to go get...
7 AH: Uh-hum(affirmative).
8 EE: ...a car. Tell me about why you went...
9 AH: I...
10 EE: ...by yourself?
11 AH:...text,I messaged her at about six to six-fifteen in the morning to make sure
12 that she was still awake. And uhm, she text messaged me back that uhm, she
13 was on the way to the hospital with her dad and she would you know, let me
14 know what was up when she could. Uhm, I waited a little while. I started
15 researching what I could of to get myself up there because I had to go buy a car.
16 And uhm, I finally heard back from her that you know, her dad had had you know,
17 a little mini stroke. It wasn't anything serious, blah, blah, blah. And at that point I
18 had already pretty much booked my car. I don't remember the exact timeline of
19 how everything worked because I was kind of freaking out at the time. Uhm, and
20 I was also worried for her dad, who never had any problems at all. Uhm, and I
21 was like, "Honey, don't worry about it. You know, take care of your family." I'm
22 pretty sure most of this was through text messages so it should be stuff that you
23 guys have now. Uhm, you know, I was like, "Take care of your family. Uhm, I
24 will get myself up there. Don't worry about it." Uhm, she called me a couple
25 hours later while I was driving uh, after I got into Jacksonville and I was trying to

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1 find the place to return the car at uhm, because that was a whole a whole
2 (unintelligible) of itself. Uhm, and she talked to me for a while. Uhm, probably
3 mostly about, well to lie about her dad and the story that it had happened before
4 and blah, blah, blah, and then probably just about her housing situation. That's
5 probably what that conversation was.
6 EE: Okay. You went to Jacksonville alone?
7 AH: Yes.
8 EE: Rental car?
9 AH: Yeah (affirmative). I rented a car. I returned it up there. Uhm, I then went with
10 my uncle to the title transfer. And then uhm, he took me to the shop where the
11 car was at where he was, you know, just getting some stuff checked out. I
12 exchanged keys. I gave him the check. Hugged. He took me to a gas station
13 for me fill up.
14 EE: Came back to Orlando?
15 AH: Came back to Orlando.
16 EE: Didn't see Casey though because she kind of, she's doing her thing with Tony
17 now?
18 AH: Yeah (affirmative). She had invited me to Fusion that night, but I was tired and I
19 didn't feel like it.
20 EE: She invited you Friday?
21 AH: She invited me every single Friday. I never wanted to go because I don't like the
22 music that they play there. I know what kind of music it is and it's not a place that
23 I would have fun at.
24 EE: Ecstasy type of stuff?
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1 AH: Uh, I think it's just more like kind of rap, hip-hop music that I just don't like. I
2 don't enjoy it.
3 DR: Techno, anything?
4 AH: I don't think so.
5 DR: No?
6 AH: Not that I'm aware of.
7 DR: Okay.
8 AH: I, I haven't, I haven't actually gone but...
9 DR: Huh-huh (negative).
10 AH: ...from the party that we had gone to that first night we met Tony,and knowing
11 Tony and his friends and the kind of music that all of a sudden Casey started
12 listening to, not music that I like.
13 DR: UH-hum(affirmative)
14 EE: Does she have a drug problem?
15 AH: Not that I'm aware of. Uhm, I know she has started smoking more pot than she
16 ever had. She would maybe eat a brownie here or there, or maybe smoke every
17 once in a great while. Uhm, but she did tell me that she'd been smoking a lot
18 more pot. The reason was because of all this stuff that was going on with her
19 family and everything that wasn't true.
20 EE: Where was she getting her pot? Do you know?
21 AH: Tony.
22 EE: From Tony? (coughs)
23 DR: How about anything else?
24 EE: N...nothing that I'm aware of, and I have not seen any signs of any problems.
25 But again, unless someone's rolling you can't tell if they're on E.

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1 DR: Yeah (affirmative).
2 AH: I mean unless you know, there's a lot of things that you can't tell unless you see
3 someone actually on the drug.
4 DR: Right.
5 AH: And Casey was obviously very, very good at keeping things separated, at
6 keeping people knowing what she wanted them to know.
7 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
8 EE: 14th through the, well the week of the 15th to the 21st you say that she kind of fell
9 off the face?
10 AH: Pretty much.
11 EE: You didn't really see her? Or didn't see her at all?
12 No, I didn't...
13 EE: Was it all text messages or whatever maybe?
14 AH: I didn't see, I did not see her at all from when was it? The, probably the 10th until
15 the 30th. Everything was all phone calls. because she blew me off about
16 Jacksonville and then you know, I didn't see her.
17 EE: Well, that's, okay, before we got to the 30th then, starting about the 25th you
18 remember...
19 AH: She talked with me....
20 EE: Tell me about the phone conversations.
21 AH: She had told me that there was this horrible smell in her car and she couldn't
22 figure out what it was. And then like as the days progressed, it may have been
23 more that two days. But I know it was at least more that one day that she talked
24 to me. So it had to have been at least two days that she told me about this smell
25 in her car. And she uhm, you know like the next day it was just so much worse.

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1 She was like I think maybe my dad ran something over with my car when he
2 borrowed it and it, it smells like something died in my car. And uhm, but she had
3 mentioned the engine as being the source of the smell.
4 EE: Okay.
5 AH: Uhm, and so then on the 27th I have a text message from her uh, saying that it
6 was when she had, you know, the same day that she had run out of gas, when
7 she was telling me about that. Uhm, that...
8 EE: So she told you she ran out of gas the 27th?
9 AH: On the 27th, yes. Uhm...
10 DR: On the 27th?
11 AH: ...and I have text messages that say that she ran out of gas. Uhm, she had run
12 out of gas the week before. There's one that says, ran out of gas, you know, two
13 Fridays in a row. How does that work?
14 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative)
15 AH: Uhm, she kept telling me that she was thinking she was having a problem with
16 her fuel guage. Uhm, but the message on the 27th says definitely, there's
17 definitely a, part of an animal plastered to the frame of my car, which was the end
18 of the mystery. She told me that she had, you know, gotten rid of it and I never
19 heard anything about a smell again.
20 EE: Text message?
21: AH: Text message was the uhm, the animal on the frame of the car. I think I
22 talked to her after that. I'm not sure. I'd have to change, check my uh,
23 messages. But I kind of think I probably called her after that. Because and then
24 she told me about running out of gas and blah, blah, blah. So I probably just
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1 called her. I, because I, I'm pretty sure I talked to her while said, she, while she
2 said she was waiting for Tony to come pick her up.
3 DR: Uhm...
4 EE: You said in that time frame too is when she told you that the child was at the
5 beach?
6 AH: Yes.
7 EE: Tell me about that.
8 AH: Uhm, I just remember her mentioning uhm, that you know, the nanny had taken
9 the kids, her and the other kid that she watched, to the beach for the weekend.
10 And uhm, that there was, that her mom was meeting them up there and was
11 probably there like two days. But they were at the beach longer than what her
12 mom was there according to the story.
13 EE: Grandma?
14 AH: Yes.
15 EE: So grandma was supposed to be going to the beach too?
16 AH: Yes.
17 EE: 30th. Surprise.
18 AH: 30th, phone rings at about nine-forty-five (0945) in the morning. Wakes me up.
19 Says, "This is Casey." And she's like, "Come open the door." And I said, "Are you
20 outside of it?" And she said, "Yes." So I opened the door and she was pretty much with
21 me until I went to work that night. Uhm, again, asked me about the, having gas cans.
22 She actually texted me and asking me if I had gas cans and all of my stuff is in storage
23 right now. Uhm, so we were talking about that and I was like, "Well, why don't we got(sic) to
24 Target."
25 EE: She texted you about gas cans?

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1 AH: Yes.
2 EE: When?
3 AH: Uhm, the same, the 27th. I think it was, it may, actually no, it was the 28th. I
4 could find it. It would just take a while. Uhm...
5 EE: Well, that's fine.
6 AH: There's a lot of text messages to go through.
7 EE: Okay.
8 AH: Uhm, but it's, it should be in the stuff that you guys have now.
9 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
10 AH: Uhm, uhm, I, because I remember looking at it and I think it was the 28th that she
11 asked me. It was either the 28th or...it was before she showed up, but it was not
12 the same day as her telling me about the animal or that she had run out of gas.
13 Uhm, so I was like, "Why don't we , we'll just go to Target. We'll buy a gas can."
14 EE: The 30th?
15 AH: On the 30th. That you know, and you can just use it. It's never a bad thing to
16 have a gas can. Even if I have some I can always use another one. You know,
17 you can use it and then just give it back to me. Done and done. So we went to
18 Target probably between eleven and one-ish that day. It was early in the day. I
19 don't remember exactly when but I'm pretty sure it was between somewhere
20 around that time. Uhm, bought a gas can...
21 EE: In, in the Jeep?
22 AH: In the Jeep. Yeah (affirmative), she drove and she ...
23 EE: Tony's Jeep?
24 AH: Yeah (affirmative). That whole week, even when I could drive, for some reason
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1 "No, no, I'll just take Tony's car." Uhm, which I thought was weird because it
2 wasn't her car, but whatever.
3 EE: Now you say she basically, you got the gas can. You go back to your place.
4 She leaves with the gas can?
5 AH: No. She I'm pretty sure hung out with me until I left for work. Uhm....
6 EE: Most of the day?
7 AH: Yeah (affirmative)
8 EE: When'd you leave for work?
9 AH: Uh, either five or six. It depends on when I was scheduled that day. I'm pretty
10 sure she was with me until I went to work. I was so much clearer about all these
11 things like a week ago.
12 EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).
13 AH: Uh, before we went way back in time. Uhm, I am pretty sure she spent the night
14 on Monday night, but I'm not a hundred percent about that now. But I'm pretty
15 sure she did because I remember when first talking about this, and this should be
16 on my first affidavit, which was me remembering better. Uhm, I'm pretty sure I
17 remember her spending every single night that week with me.
18 EE: Because Tony's out of town?
19 AH: Because Tony was out of town and she didn't want to go home.
20 EE: So the 30th of June through the 5th of July, she was really...
21 AH: Well the, the Fourth of July she spent that night. And the she uh, Troy, Tony
22 came back.
23 EE: The 5th?
24 AH: On the 5th, and then...
25 EE: Yeah (affirmative), so most that whole week she stayed with you, but no child?

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1 AH: No child.
2 EE: All these stories about where the child was?
3 AH: Always with the nanny.
4 EE: Okay. (unintelligible).
5 AH: Always had an explanation. We never even has to ask. Always had an
6 explanation. We'd just talk about it. She'd also talk about the that she was
7 so upset that she barely been able to see Caylee lately. But it's just, you know,
8 it's better for her. She's you know, just playing and having fun. They're going
9 everywhere. They'd gone to you know, Busch Gardens for a while. And she was
10 like, "You know, they're just, you know, she's having fun. So at least she's in a
11 good place and not involved in all of this other stuff," made up stuff that all this
12 other stuff that's happening.
13 EE: She had her nails done that week?
14 AH: Yes. I, I'm pretty sure she had those done on that Tuesday because I don't think
15 she came over on that Monday. Because I remember her coming over with them
16 done.
17 EE: July 1st?
18 AH: Yes.
19 EE: July 2nd she tells you the child's with the nanny. You got...
20 AH: Well and I will say in my original affidavit, which was a mistake, because I've now
21 tracked my phone records and see when that phone call was, I did originally say
22 that the first night that, or the first day that she showed up was on Tuesday, the
23 first. Checking now my phone records it was that Monday.
24 EE: The 30th?
25 AH: Yes.

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1 EE: Okay.
2 AH: Uh, which was false, uh, information that I thought was true, but have now looked
3 at phone records and whatnot.
4 EE: You had good intentions.
5 DR: You just clarified it that's all.
6 EE: That's, that's fine.
7 AH: Yeah (affirmative), that's, and that's why I want to clarify that.
8 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
9 EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).
10 AH: So alright, go on. I didn't mean to interrupt you.
11 EE: The 2nd uhm, you guys went to a couple of clubs. Now was there any, look like
12 she was searching for anyone at those clubs? (inaudible).
13 AH: Uhm, it didn't seem like it to me that night. I know on the 3rd uhm, and this you
14 would have to talk to Troy about, uhm, that she got upset and said her brother
15 was coming to look for her and that they had to leave. Uhm, that is something
16 that you'd have to talk to Troy about. I was not there that night. Uhm....
17 EE: What club is that?
18 AH: They I believe were at The Lodge. Then again you would have to confirm that
19 with them because I've only heard what they've told me.
20 EE: The Lodge?
21 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
22 EE: Where's that?
23 AH: It's on Orange, across the street from a barbecue bar.
24 EE: Okay. So this, you go out that night....
25 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).

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1 EE: The 3rd, the 2nd?
2 AH: Yes.
3 EE: V..Voyage, Macos, back to?
4 AH: Voyage.
5 EE: And then go home?
6 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
7 EE: No child?
8 AH: No.
9 EE: Back to the apartment. Wake up. She gets up and runs out and gets a tattoo?
10 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
11 EE: Crazy life, good life.
12 AH: Good life.
13 EE: The good life, in Spanish.
14 AH: In Italian...
15 EE: In Italian?
16 AH: Is what she told me. I don't know. I don't know Italian or Spanish, so.
17 EE: Buena Vita is what it says.
18 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
19 EE: Buenos, Bueno, Could be uh, uh....
20 AH: It could be either. They're so similar.
21 EE: Yeah (affirmative).
22 AH: Uh, she told me it was Italian and it meant good life.
23 EE: Well Buena Vita I'm pretty sure from listening to music, and evening knowing
24 what Bueno means, is...
25 DR: I'm half Puerto Rican. (Inaudible) I think is ....

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1 EE: ...is Spanish.
2 DR: Huh.
3 EE: Well you got me beat.
4 AH: Maybe she...
5 DR: I'm not fluent, but I think that that's what that means.
6 AH: (Laughs).
7 DR: (Laughs).
8 EE: We're not picking on you. It's just we're....
9 AH: I don't know any other language.
10 EE: And she, she could have said it was...
11 AH: I'll say that flat out.
12 EE:..German and you guys....
13 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
14 EE: ..Would have...
15 AH: I would have known it was in German.
16 EE: ...believed her.
17 AH: There are no little dots above things.
18 DR: (Laughs).
19 EE: Yeah (affirmative). So she goes and gets a tattoo. Where on the body is the
20 tattoo?
21 AH: Her shoulder.
22 EE: Nice.
23 AH: I'm pretty sure it was this shoulder.
24 DR: Her right shoulder?
25 EE: And you saw this?

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1 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
2 EE: You saw that?
3 AH: Yes.
4 EE: So she's got her fingernails cleaned, done up pretty, and a tattoo in the week that
5 Tony's gone?
6 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
7 EE: Goes out partying the 2nd, the 3rd ...
8 AH: And the 4th.
9 EE: And the 4th?
10 AH: Because we have a Fourth of July party.
11 EE: Fourth of July party at Will's house. Will Waters. She tells you around that time
12 that now the child is no longer at the beach. She's gone to Sea World for the
13 weekend?
14 AH: Yeah (affirmative). Well I mean I don't, I don't think she had told me.
15 DR: Or the Fourth of July?
16 AH: Yeah (affirmative), the Fourth, the Fourth of July they're at Sea World. I know
17 there were times in that week that they're at different amusement parks. That
18 they were at Universal. They were, but I don't remember which days she said
19 they were where. I ...
20 EE: Oh, so this whole week she had excuses of being at parks and (inaudible)....
21 AH: Oh, yeah (affirmative), at parks....
22 DR: She, but and you said...
23 AH: ..or just with the nanny or...
24 DR: ..specifically Fourth of July (inaudible)?
25 AH: The only one I remember specific was Fourth of July and Sea World.

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1 DR: Yeah (affirmative).
2 AH: I know there were plenty of other places, but I don't remember specifically what
3 day and what place, except for the Fourth of July.
4 EE: The 5th, the morning of the 5th Casey is happy, clicking away at the computer
5 keys you said early in the morning?
6 AH: Because Tony is coming back.
7 EE: Just girlish and giddy?
8 AH: Yes. Very, very, very annoyingly giddy. Especially for...
9 EE: But she still...
10 AH: ...somebody that's just (inaudible).
11 EE: ...kept talking to Will Waters over the phone, stringing him up?
12 AH: Yeah (affirmative). They hung out that whole day. Uhm, and she talked to him
13 the whole way to the airport and all the way up the elevator, the escalator. Uhm,
14 he said that she pretty much got off, he kept saying like, "Don't you need to like
15 get yourself in boyfriend mode?" She's like, "No no, no, keep talking." Uhm,
16 and granted this is what he's telling me.Uhm, but that pretty much until she
17 got to you know, the place where the monorails are, you know, like right where
18 the security is, she talked to him pretty much the whole time.
19 EE: Fast forward to the 8th. She drives you to the airport.
20 AH: Yes, and...
21 EE: No longer in the Jeep because boyfriends home?
22 AH: Boyfriends home.
23 EE: Tony's home.
24 AH: Uhm, I did not see her, I saw her on Saturday. I did not see her again until that
25 Tuesday. We had talked and we had already arranged, you know, her driving my

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1 car. Uhm, and then I picked, I got to Tony's place at I want to say like six-fifteen-
2 ish. Uhm, text messages can show that. Uhm, because she text messaged me
3 asking where I was when I was at the 7-11 across the street, uhm, just filling up.
4 So I left her with a full tank of gas.
5 EE: So you drive over to Tony's to pick her up to take you to the airport?
6 AH: Right, because she doesn't have any...
7 EE: You actually pick her up?
8 AH: Yeah (affirmative). She doesn't have any mode of transportation at this point.
9 EE: No child?
10 AH: No child. Uhm, so I, I, you know, call her when I'm outside. She comes, you
11 know and comes down. Actually no, I called her twice. Because I called her
12 when I thought the gate was closed. And then I realized that the one that was
13 letting people out was open so I wiggled around and got out, or got in. Uhm, so I
14 drove up and you know, called her and let her know that I'd gotten in and I was
15 outside. So that was probably around six-ish, maybe slightly after six. Uhm,
16 because my flight left at 810 and I wanted to be at the airport around 630.
17 EE: So it's early?
18 AH: It's very, that, then that's why I knew she was going to be the only person that
19 was going to take me. That all my good friends were already gone, so.
20 EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).
21 AH: They uh, you have to have a decent friend that's going to take you to the airport
22 at six o'clock in the morning. Uhm...
23 EE: So all your clothes and bunch of stuff's in your car?
24 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
25 EE: She takes you. Dropped you off. You come back?

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1 AH: On the 15th.
2 EE: On the 15th. She picks you up?
3 AH: She picks me up. I drive her back to Tony's place and then got back to pick up
4 Ricardo and Troy and J.P. from the airport. I drive back to our place. And then
5 uhm, J.P. had wanted to go get the I-Phone. So I went to the Florida Mall with him to
6 just go hang out because I think Florida Mall's fun. And uhm, it was there
7 probably about maybe twenty minutes after we got to the mall that Cindy Anthony
8 called me. Uhm...
9 EE: Grandma?
10 AH: The grandma called me and uhm, pretty much wondering where her daughter
11 and granddaughter were. Briefly explained some of the situation. Offered to
12 come pick me up from the mall. Uhm, after some deliberation I decided to pick
13 her up on that offer. Uhm, she sounded very concerned and told me that if she
14 did not find Casey she would end up in jail. And I .....
15 EE: Grandma said that?
16 AH: Yes. I decided to trust her.
17 DR: Did you ask her why she would make a statement like that? Why (inaudible)...
18 AH: Well she had told me that the car had been impounded since the 30th. They had
19 just gotten it off. She hadn't seen Caylee. She was pretty panicky and ...
20 DR: Yeah (affirmative), but why would she think her daughter would end up in jail?
21 Did she (inaudible).
22 AH: I didn't know. I mean it kind of sounded to me like it was something to do with
23 the car. And I don't know how long you can leave a car in impound without...
24 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
25 AH: ..getting in trouble. I don't know any of that.

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1 DR: Okay.
2 AH: All I know is the tone of voice and the fact that she was going to drive all the way
3 to Florida Mall made me trust her because I've heard that tone of voice from
4 parents before and it's concern and it's worry and it's not knowing what to do.
5 And.....
6 EE: Did uh, grandma ever ask you about a smell coming from the car?
7 AH: She told me about the smell uhm...
8 EE: Uhm, when?
9 AH: ...in the car ride back to Tony's place. Uhm, after she had picked me up from
10 Florida Mall that was, she was telling me the story about you know, the fact that
11 she had gotten a letter from the impound uhm, saying that the car had been
12 impounded...
13 EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).
14 AH: ..since the 30th. They went to go pick it up. And that the car smell like
15 something had died. And...
16 EE: Grandma tells you that?
17 AH: Grandma tells me that. And at that point I'm like,"Oh, yeah (affirmative), Casey
18 told me she had run something over with her car." And then proceeds, she
19 proceeds to tell me, she's like, "Oh, well we didn't know that." But proceeds to
20 tell me the rest of the story that the impound law, because they couldn't, didn't
21 have the keys...
22 DR: Yeah (affirmative), but didn't you say that Casey had blamed her dad for running
23 something over?
24 AH: Is what she told me. But we no know that....
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1 ...nothing Casey says is true.
2 DR: I know. But what, but you told her mom...
3 EE: Did you share that information...
4 DR: Right.
5 EE: ...with grandma?
6 AH: I know she said that she, I think I, at the time I said I thought she said that you
7 know she had run something over. I don't think I mentioned the dad part. But...
8 EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).
9 DR: Okay.
10 AH: I, I mean at that time we don't know any of this is going to happen.
11 EE: Did, did grandma at the time start to seem like she was going down the road that
12 baby's missing?
13 AH: Uh, at this time...
14 EE: Nasty smelling car?
15 AH: ..she just..well,that's what they said. I mean she, she told me the whole story
16 after I, you know, I had mentioned that I knew about the smell. Uhm, she's like
17 well, you know, the impound lot didn't have the keys so they couldn't open up the
18 trunk. And she had told me that the smell was coming from the truck, trunk. And
19 Casey had talked about it coming from the engine. Uhm...
20 EE: Grandma told you on the 15th smell coming from the trunk?
21 AH: Yes. Uhm, when they went to go pick up the car from the impound lot. Once
22 they had the keys and they opened it up they found the pizza boxes with
23 maggots on the inside. And we're assuming that's what the smell was..
24 EE: In the...
25 AH: ...is what she told me.

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1 EE: ..in the...
2 AH: In the trunk.
3 EE: In the trunk?
4 AH: Is what she told me.
5 EE: Okay, okay.
6 AH: Uhm, and also told me that Caylee's baby, that her car seat was in there and she
7 didn't know how Casey was getting her around. And you know, she just didn't
8 know what was going on. Uhm, at that....
9 EE: Anything about a squirrel? Any story about a squirrel?
10 AH: Not from her mom. I think Casey, when I talked to her on the phone mentioned
11 that she thought it was a squirrel that was the dead thing, but it was pretty dead.
12 DR: When was that conversation about the squirrel?
13 AH: Uhm, probably, I'm, I don't, I think I called her like after that text message I'm
14 pretty sure I called her and talked to her while she was waiting for Tony to come
15 pick her up.
16 DR: So on the 27th?
17 AH: Well, yes, on the 27th.
18 EE: So the chunk of animal...
19 AH: I do, I do remember...
20 EE: ...on the front of her car...
21 AH: ...her saying squirrel, but I don't remember if that was her initial, I think maybe
22 my dad ran over a squirrel, or if that was the information that's what the dead
23 animal was. I don't...
24 EE: But you heard squirrel from somewhere in there?
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1 AH: Somewhere along the line I did hear a squirrel. Uhm, and yeah (affirmative), so
2 her mom you know, tells me that story and just, I mean she's beside herself in
3 the car. Like she's really just trying to hold it together.
4 EE: Grandma?
5 AH: Yes. Uhm, in that car ride I had also found out a lot about uhm, just all of the lies
6 Casey had told. I found out about a lot of things. That's how I found out about
7 her dad not actually having a stroke, or mini-stroke. Uhm, that they were not
8 getting a divorce. That her, you know, more that likely the cash that had gone
9 missing Casey definitely took. Uhm, because she, I, pretty much I told her about
10 that and she's like, "No, honey that money's gone. You'll never see it again."
11 EE: When did that money get stolen? That cash?
12 AH: That money got stolen the 2nd. Uhm, Casey had told me a story that I had...
13 EE: Four hundred and eighty dollars?
14 AH: Four hundred dollars. The eighty was the towing that I had lent to her. It
15 was four hundred even. Uhm, and she...
16 EE: Sleep walking?
17 AH: Yeah (affirmative), she told me that I had put, was putting the money aside. That
18 I was talking to her. She had no idea I was asleep until the morning when I said I
19 didn't remember it. Uhm, and really the only reason I bought it is the week
20 before I had changed pants in my sleep from this pair of pants, which are really
21 comfy, to a different pair of pants. I don't remember doing it. I don't know why I
22 did it but I woke up in a different pair of pants, which is why I kind of bought this
23 story. I didn't remember ever telling her that story but I must have which is why
24 she used that to tell me the story about me putting this money away in my sleep.
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1 Haven't been able to find the money. Uhm, nothing I can prove, and nothing I
2 want to try and prosecute at all. That money is just gone.
3 EE: Did Grandma, on the 15th when you went over there....
4 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
5 EE: ...to Tony's apartment, did she mention at all that she was going over there to
6 look for the child?
7 AH: Yes.
8 EE: Okay, and that was her...
9 AH: She told me...
10 EE: ...primary concern though?
11 AH: Her primary concern was A,trying to figure out, you know, everything with the
12 car. But the primary concern was Caylee.
13 EE: Did she make any statements that you can recall that concern that something
14 bad may have happened to that child?
15 AH: Yes.
16 EE: What did she say?
17 AH: She said that she was worried. She hadn't seem Caylee. She hadn't talked to
18 Caylee in over a month. Uhm, Casey kept saying, "She fine. She's with the
19 nanny." Uhm, and she pretty much you know, said that she thought Casey was
20 an unfit mother and that if this goes on much longer that she would sue for
21 custody of Caylee if it got to that.
22 DR: Why did you, why did she think she was an unfit mom?
23 AH: Uhm, the going out, the partying. She uhm, I don't know if you guys have seen
24 the picture of Casey and the American flag. That's from the no clothes party that
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1 printed it off from a computer, in her face and said, "You're at work? Huh?" So
2 and that that she had been watching Caylee and Casey had said she was at
3 work. Uhm, and it was the going out, the partying...
4 DR: That was the no clothes party?
5 AH: Yes.
6 So she was with the mom at the no clothes party?
7 AH: Yes.
8 DR: Caylee was?
9 AH: Oh, uh, uh, yeah (affirmative).
10 DR: Okay.
11 AH: I did not think of that, but yeah (affirmative), that would imply that, yes. Uhm, but
12 I mean I know that was the night that that par...that picture was taken and she
13 said that she had been watching Caylee that night. Pretty much was like, "You're
14 at work, huh?
15 EE: So she said she well felt she was an unfit mother? But did...
16 AH: Which Casey had told me that her mom has said to her before.
17 EE: But did she say anything that sticks out in your mind that she may have linked
18 something bad happening to that child with that smell in that car?
19 AH: Only that at first they, because she hadn't talking to Casey either in a month, that
20 they were afraid that it was either Caylee of Casey stuffed in the trunk, uhm, until
21 they got it open. Uhm, once we got to ...
22 EE: So they were afraid that the baby was in the trunk?
23 AH: They were terrified it was either Casey or Caylee.
24 EE: Because of the smell?
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1 AH: Because they has not talked to either of them. Because of the smell. I did not
2 ever smell the smell. Uhm, I've only heard of it.
3 EE: That was in the car...
4 AH: That was in the car.
5 EE: ...traveling to or from?
6 AH: That was in the car traveling to Tony's place from the Florida Mall.
7 EE: Grandma said afraid smell from trunk was Casey...
8 AH: Or Caylee.
9 EE: ...or Caylee?
10 AH: Because the towing company had not been able to get into the trunk because
11 they did not have the keys.
12 EE: So instead of calling the police at that time...
13 AH: Well she told me that she, it was weird because it kind of seemed like she had
14 sort of reported it, but it was like a, tentative reporting. Like she was reporting
15 that maybe something was wrong, but she had to call to confirm that it was. Is
16 what it...
17 EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).
18 AH: ...seemed like to me but I didn't know that was possible. I thought you either
19 reported someone missing or you didn't. Uhm, that seemed a little fly to me, but
20 you know, there was so much other stuff going on at that time that...
21 EE: When did the car get to mom's house?
22 AH: The 30th is when she said that, or on, no, on the 15th. Because she told me that it
23 was that morning that they had gone to get it.
24 EE: And they still hadn't been in the trunk?
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1 AH: The 15th, well that's when they opened the trunk, when they went to, they opened
2 at the lot when they got there.
3 EE: Okay. Because they had the key?
4 AH: Is what her mom told me.
5 EE: But she was nervous that that was going to be...
6 AH: Yes, and telling when it opened.
7 EE: She wasn't sure if she was going to open up, because you...
8 AH: She didn't know what they were going to find.
9 EE: They could smell that before they even opened the trunk?
10 AH: Yes. And the towing company said that they could smell it.
11 EE: That pungent?
12 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
13 EE: Not a pizza box? I know there was pizza boxes in there. Did that...
14 AH: There's no way a pizza box could smell that bad.
15 EE: At that point in time...
16 AH: From what the, from the description of the smell there's no way.
17 EE: Even the grandparents felt at that time, from what she told you ...
18 AH: And...
19 EE: ...that that oh, shit?
20 AH: Until they got that trunk open that's what they were afraid of, yes.
21 EE: That it was going to be the baby or their daughter? Excellent. (Sighs) So, huh.
22 DR: Did you guys have a, any conversations with the grandma on the way there to
23 clarify if the dad had ever been sick, or...
24 EE: I'll be right back in a second.
25 DR: ...all that, that's when all the stuff came out?

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1 (Corporal Edwards exits the room.)
2 AH: Oh yeah (affirmative). Well because she started telling me some stuff basically
3 about all the financial things about how Casey had been stealing money from her
4 for a while.
5 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
6 AH: And you know, I mean at first it started out with you know, more of an explanation
7 that we got over the phone. Because I was at the mall. It was a little loud.
8 DR: Right.
9 AH: I could only understand, you know, ninety, or eighty percent of what she was
10 saying.
11 DR: Correct.
12 AH: Uhm, and so she kind of gave me more of a synopsis of kind of more their lives,
13 and you know, the money that she had been stealing from them for years. And
14 that she had stolen from her grandmother.
15 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
16 AH: And uhm, like I don't know how much. I didn't, I wasn't able to watch...
17 DR: Yeah (affirmative), I'm not asking...
18 AH: ...the hearing yesterday.
19 DR: ...about the amount.
20 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
21 DR: I'm just...
22 AH: I don't, I , I just don't know what...
23 DR: About her behavior from her parents...
24 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
25 DR: ...is what I'm talking about.

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1 AH: Yeah (affirmative). And uhm, she, you know, was pretty much filling me in on a
2 lot of things. And then after I found out about a lot of these lies, because she's
3 like, "Do you know where Casey works?" And I was like, "Universal?" She's like,
4 "I'm not even sure she has a job."
5 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
6 AH: And I was like, "She always told us about it and she talks about it a lot."
7 DR: Yeah (affirmative).
8 AH: Uhm, I mean at this point, you know, I'm just starting to find out all of these
9 things about the person that I felt was one of my closest friends.
10 DR: Right.
11 AH: Uhm, and she, you know, than after I'm finding out about all these lies about all
12 this stuff, them I started asking...
13 DR: Asking questions?
14 AH: ...some stuff. I asked about you know, if you know, Mr. Anthony had been sick
15 at all lately, or...
16 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
17 AH: ...been in the hospital, and she's like, "No, not at all." I said...
18 DR: Are you getting a divorce? (Chuckles)
19 AH: Yeah (affirmative). I was like, awesome. I was like, you know, and after a little
20 while I was like, "Alright, this is a little personal, but I ...
21 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
22 AH: ...kind of need to see how far this thing goes." I was like, "Are you and your
23 husband having any, you know, martial trouble right now?"
24 (Corporal Edwards returns to the room after a few minutes).
25 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).

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1 AH: And she was like, "No, not at all."
2 DR: You asked about the house situation?
3 AH: Uhm, yeah (affirmative), I told her about the fact, I was like...
4 DR: Moving in?
5 AH: ...you know, she told me that you know, they were, and all that stuff. And she'd
6 like, "That was never even a thought in my mind." She's like, "The only time that
7 I've ever mentioned selling the house was to Casey because I couldn't afford the
8 mortgage payments."
9 DR: So on the 15th is when everything came out?
10 AH: Pop, a big, old bubble popped.
11 DR: Okay.
12 AH: I mean I can home just, because they dropped me off and I mean there was
13 other stuff. And she, Mrs. Anthony confronted Casey about a lot of those lies in
14 the car, and she pretty much sat there.
15 DR: You were in the car?
16 AH: Didn't say a word. Yes. Well, because they took me back to where I live.
17 EE: Did grandmother bark at Casey about the smell in the trunk of the car?
18 AH: Yeah (affirmative).
19 EE: She did?
20 AH: I don't remember...
21 EE: What did she...
22 AH: Just saying that the car smells like shit and you know. they were terrified...
23 EE: Shit or death? I mean did she got down the death road with her like...
24 AH: Uhm, I don't, I don't remember. Uhm, it was very, very uncomfortable for me to
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1 EE: Oh, I could only imagine.
2 AH: Uhm, I was trying my best just to, I mean they were very loud.
3 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
4 AH: And I mean I heard everything. Even when I finally, because I got, initially got in
5 the corner. Was like in the corner because I had pretty much knocked on the
6 door to get Casey to come out. Motioned her mom over and got stuck in a
7 corner for a few minutes with them yelling like right here. And I finally wiggled my
8 way to go sit on the stairs, but I meant they're my ride. I couldn't go to terribly far.
9 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
10 AH: Uhm, and you know, was fortunately, slash, unfortunately able to hear all of what
11 was happening. But it was a lot of just mother/daughter yelling at each other.
12 You know, "You're lying about me." She had told her mom that she was in
13 Jacksonville that day...
14 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
15 AH: ...and she wasn't. And you know...
16 EE: Any challenges about the child though? Was grandma challenging her about the
17 location of the child?
18 AH: She just, she just kept saying, "You are taking me to Caylee now." And Casey
19 was like, "She's fine. She's with the nanny." And Mrs. Anthony was like, "Then if
20 she is then we're just going to go see her." She's like, "I want to see my
21 granddaughter. I want to be selfish. I want to see my granddaughter." She's
22 like, "You're taking her to me now."
23 EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).
24 AH: And pretty much forced, you know, Casey to, in the car. And they dropped me
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1 saying, "Fine. We'll drop Amy off and we'll talk." And she's like, "We can talk but
2 you're taking me to Caylee."
3 EE: Dropped you back off at your apartment?
4 AH: Yeah (affirmative). So they dropped me off and then I did not hear from either of
5 them until eleven o'clock when uhm, Cindy Anthony called me and told me that,
6 well she had told me when she dropped me off, she's like, "I'll let you know what
7 happens, and you know, if Caylee's okay," and all that stuff. And uhm, just called
8 me crying, at about eleven o'clock that night, saying that you know, Casey was
9 gone, or Caylee was gone and that Casey said the nanny had ran off with her
10 like a month ago. And you know, that's the first I heard of that story. Uhm, but
11 she called me from her cell phone at eleven o'clock on the 15th.
12 EE: And Tony called you too?
13 AH: Tony called me too because he didn't know what was...
14 EE: From Casey's phone?
15 AH: Yeah (affirmative). He didn't know what was going on.
16 EE: And them on the 17th you say you talked to him for about an hour and a half?
17 AH: Yeah (affirmative). I went over to his place to go pick up my checkbook. Uhm, I
18 had already closed out the account. I just wanted it back. Uhm, and so I picked
19 that up and I, I honestly has planned it to be an fairly in and out trip, but we
20 ended up talking for like and hour and a half.
21 EE: (unintelligible)
22 DR: And actually the 15th, from the last time you seen Caylee (meaning Casey) until
23 this, the only time you ever say her upset was at that party with Brandon?
24 AH: She was frustrated a lot and pissed off a lot...
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1 AH: ...especially when I got phone calls.
2 DR: ...crying...
3 AH: Never crying.
4 DR: ...or like...
5 AH: Never saw her cry other that...
6 DR: Maybe depression...
7 AH: ...that day.
8 DR: ...like oh, my gosh, what's happened to my life?
9 AH: Nope (negative).
10 DR: No?
11 EE: Getting her nails done.
12 DR: Yeah (affirmative).
13 EE: Getting a tattoo.
14 DR: Right.
15 EE: "The good life."
16 AH: Uh-hum (affirmative).
17 DR: Right.
18 EE: Going out every night. Uhm...
19 AH: I am, and granted, I mean not that I'm defending her at all, but that's because
20 she was staying with me, and that's what I was doing. And that's what the
21 people, you know, around her were doing. Not that I'm defending her at all. I
22 don't know what she was doing in that period where she fell of the side, the face
23 of the earth. Uhm, I know she was, you know...
24 DR: Would that be normal behavior for you if your child was missing?
25 AH: Oh, God no.

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1 DR: I'm just going to throw that out there, huh.
2 AH: God no.
3 DR: The point I'm getting at.
4 AH: No. I mean if I had known Caylee was missing I wouldn't have been doing any of
5 that stuff.
6 DR: Right.
7 EE: Anything in that hour and half conversation on the 17th with Tony that we need
8 to know about?
9 AH: Uhm, he did, and he said he told me that he told guys about a text message
10 from her on Wednesday that said uhm, "If they never find her guess who spends
11 eternity in jail?" Uhm, which I felt was a little weird. He told me that he did tell
12 you guys about that text message though.
13 EE: Guess who spends...
14 AH: Eternity in jail. Which seemed weird to me at the time because then you know...
15 EE: When did that text message come across?
16 AH: I don't know what day that was. He told me that on, whatever that Thurs...the
17 17th. Uhm, I think he said that was on the Wednesday before she got arrested.
18 EE: The 9th?
19 DR: She sent him?
20 AH: She sent him that text message.
21 EE: The 9th?
22 AH: No. No, no, no, no, no, the Tuesday, like she got arrested on the Wednesday.
23 DR: Uh-hum (affirmative).
24 AH: So, where's my July. Uhm, so that would have been the 16th.
25 EE: He told you this?

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1 AH: That's what he told me, yes. He didn't show me the text message, but he pulled
2 it up on his phone and read it to me.
3 EE: He read you the text message?
4 AH: Yes.
5 DR: That she sent him?
6 AH: And he told me that he told you guys, or whatever at the time, just at the time.
7 EE: Well if she's in jail when?
8 AH: She was arrested I thought the afternoon of the 16th.
9 DR: She was.
10 EE: So there's no way she could have text messaged him.
11 AH: No, it would have been, it would have been like earlier in the day on the 16th,
12 before she was arrested.
13 EE: She had her phone back then?
14 AH: Yes.
15 EE: Someway, somehow?
16 AH: Because he said that you know, they had actually talked a little bit as well.
17 EE: Okay. Raise your right hand? Do you swear that everything you gave today, you
18 swear and affirm everything today provided is freely given and true?
19 AH: Yes sir.
20 EE: Can you state your name one more time for me?
21 AH: My name is Amy Huizenga, and everything I have said is true to the best extent
22 of my knowledge.
23 EE: 4:39 p.m., same date, the same individuals in the room. The conclusion of
24 interview.
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