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![[Abraham Shakespeare]](http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af65/acr-research/shakespeareTN/163-AbrahamShakespeare3TN.jpg) Abraham Shakespeare MURDERED - Plant City, Florida (Hillsborough Co.) April 2009Abraham Shakespeare (42) won $31 million dollars in the Florida Lottery in 2006. He took a lump sum payout of approximately $17 million. He remained a frugal person as he had before his lottery windfall, but after numerous failed real estate transactions, loans, and friendships Abraham has suddenly gone missing. He was last seen in the Lakeland area in April 2009. Dorice Emma Donegan Moore (AKA Dee Dee Moore) stated in the media that she bought out Abraham's debts to enable him to move away to escape paying child support arrears for a second child that was born after the lottery windfall. Law Enforcement believes there may be more to this story. Abraham Shakespeare's body was found on January 28, 2010 buried beneath a cement slab on the rear property of Shar Krasniqi located at 5802 S.R.60 East, Plant City, Florida 33567. Shar Krasniqi was the boyfriend of Dorice Emma Donegan Moore (AKA Dee Dee Moore). On February 2, 2010 Dee Dee Moore was arrested, first charged with Accessory after the fact and later with First Degree Murder of Abraham Shakespeare. Contact Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office (http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us) |
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Abraham Shakespeare Case 02/12/2010 - Transcript of Sworn Statement of Judith Diane Haggins 09/16/2010 DISCOVERY BINDER #4 PAGES 301 to 328 1 IN THE OFFICE OF THE STATE ATTORNEY 2 IN AND FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, STATE OF FLORIDA 3 4 ----------------------------X 5 IN RE: SOA INVESTIGATION 6 ----------------------------X 7 8 9 10 SWORN STATEMENT OF: JUDITH DIANE HAGGINS 11 TAKEN: Pursuant to Notice 12 TIME: Beginning at 9:55 a.m. Concluded at 11:15 a.m. 13 DATE: Friday, February 12, 2010 14 PLACE: Office of Larry Hardaway, Esq. 15 1022 Lakeland Hills Blvd. Lakeland, Florida 33805 16 BEFORE: RALPH D. MILLS, CVR, CP Notary Public 17 State of Florida at Large 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 PAGE 301 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 APPEARANCES: 2 On behalf of the State: 3 HON. JAY PRUNER Assistant State Attorney 4 419 N. Pierce St., Third Floor Tampa, Florida 33602 5 (813) 272-5400 6 On behalf of the Witness: 7 LARRY HARDAWAY, ESQ. 1022 Lakeland Hills Blvd. 8 Lakeland, Florida 33805 9 10 ALSO PRESENT: 11 DET. GREG THOMAS, HCSO 12 DET. DAVID WALLACE, PCSO 13 14 CONTENTS 15 PAGE 16 Examination by Mr. Pruner 3 17 Examination by Det. Wallace 14 18 Further Examination by Mr. Pruner 14 19 Further Examination by Det. Wallace 36 20 Further Examination by Mr. Pruner 45 21 Examination by Det. Thomas 46 22 Further Examination by Det. Wallace 48 23 Certificate of Oath 54 24 Certificate of Reporter 55 25 PAGE 302 (2066) Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 JUDITH DIANE HAGGINS, 2 was called as a witness, and being duly sworn by the 3 Notary, was examined and testified as follows: 4 EXAMINATION 5 BY MR. PRUNER: 6 Q Would you please state your full name, 7 ma'am? 8 A Judith Diane Haggins 9 Q Ms. Haggins, what is your permanent 10 address? 11 A 1401 Kettles Avenue, Apartment 201, 12 Lakeland, Florida 33805. 13 Q Would you spell the name of that avenue 14 for us? 15 A Kettles, K-e-t-t-l-e-s. 16 Q And a phone number that you can be 17 reached at, down the road, I mean? We'd be contacting 18 you through your attorney, but for future. 19 A (863) 686-4609. 20 Q Okay. Ma'am, my name is Jay Pruner. I'm 21 a prosecutor in the State Attorney's Office in 22 Hillsborough County. We are in the law office of 23 Mr. Larry Hardaway to conduct a sworn statement with 24 you today. 25 The gentleman to my left you may know PAGE 303 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 from having met him before, it's Detective Greg Thomas 2 with the Sheriff's Office. The gentleman to you left 3 is a court reporter. 4 At the outset here I'm going to give you 5 an explanation that Mr. Hardaway may have already given 6 to you, but it's important that there be an explanation 7 on the record, okay? 8 A Okay. 9 Q We've issued you a subpoena for your 10 appearance here today, and that does a couple of 11 things. First, it compels or requires your attendance 12 here, which you've shown up and met that, and secondly 13 it give you a benefit under the law called use 14 immunity. 15 Simply stated, that means that anything 16 that you say in here today in response to our questions 17 cannot be used against you in a court of law with one 18 important exception, and that exception is you are not 19 protected against false testimony that you would give. 20 So if you knowingly lie here today, it 21 can be used as a basis for a perjury prosecution. Do 22 you understand that? 23 A Yes, sir. 24 Q And I don't mean to be insulting with 25 this question, but do you understand what perjury is? PAGE 304 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 A Yes, sir. 2 Q Okay. Essentially knowingly giving a 3 false statement under oath. 4 A Yes. 5 Q Okay. Do you understand the protection 6 that you're given today as a result of your having 7 received the subpoena? 8 A Yes, sir. 9 Q Okay. The court reporter to your left is 10 using a dual recording system. He, there's a 11 microphone in front of you and he's actually repeating 12 everything that's spoken. I know that you can see 13 that. 14 And it's my habit a lot of times in 15 talking to people to say uh-huh or huh-uh or nod their 16 head and shake their head in response. 17 Well, we all in here can see that and 18 understand it, though, when this is written in a 19 transcript it may not be clear as to what your intended 20 response was. 21 So if you do say uh-huh or huh-uh or nod 22 or shake your head, I may prompt you by saying, "Is 23 that a yes or a no?" just so the final transcript can 24 be complete and accurate. Do you understand? 25 A Yes, sir. PAGE 305 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 Q Okay. Now, you're not going to be 2 peppered from all directions with questions today, but 3 it is important that you understand the questions that 4 you are asked. 5 So if there is any doubt in your mind 6 what is being asked you, just tell us, "I don't 7 understand. Can you repeat that? Can you rephrase 8 that?" Because the purpose here is not to confuse you 9 but is to get a truthful and accurate account of the 10 information that you may have for us. Do you 11 understand that, ma'am? 12 A Yes, sir. 13 Q And similarly, if, obviously if you need 14 to take a break at any point in time, I don't think 15 we're going to be here that long today, but if you need 16 to take a break at any time or to consult with 17 Mr. Hardaway you're absolutely free and entitled to do 18 that. Just let us know and we'll take a break for 19 however length of much time you need, okay? 20 A Okay. 21 Q All right. As you can imagine, this 22 investigation is very widespread. There is a lot of 23 financial matters involved in the handling of certain 24 funds of Mr. Shakespeare's. As I have indicated to 25 Mr. Hardaway, your attorney, in phone conversations, PAGE 306 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 I'm not going to go into those today. 2 Because, simply stated, I have not 3 received or reviewed any of the financial records. I'm 4 ill-equipped, unprepared to go into that today, okay. 5 So I'm not going to be asking you and the detectives 6 won't ask you about any handling of Mr. Shakespeare's 7 monies or Ms. Moore's handling of Shakespeare's money 8 or anything of that today. 9 We may do that down the road at a time 10 when I feel like I can ask you an intelligent question 11 as opposed to just making it out of the air. Do you 12 understand that, ma'am? 13 A Yes, sir. 14 Q Okay. So I'd ask you not to volunteer 15 any information that may not be responsive in that 16 regard. Do you have any questions about anything 17 before we get started? 18 A No. 19 Q Okay. About how long had you known 20 Mr. Shakespeare as of 2009, approximately? 21 A Approximately about 16 years. It might 22 be less. 23 Q Okay. I understand, and I want to use 24 this kind of as a reference point, that on April 3rd of 25 2009 Mr. Shakespeare executed a Power of Attorney PAGE 307 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 naming you or giving you the right or Power of 2 Attorney, is that correct? 3 A Yes, sir. 4 Q Did he do that with you in person. 5 A Yes, sir. 6 Q Okay. Was that the last time that you 7 saw him, Abraham Shakespeare, in person? 8 A Yes, sir. 9 Q Okay. So let's use that as kind of a 10 reference point. I've had the benefit of listening to 11 a couple of audio recordings of conversations between 12 you and a fellow by the name of Greg Smith. I think 13 you know him as Todd, perhaps? 14 A Yes, sir. 15 Q Okay. They were made, I believe, in a 16 car in the parking lot of Home Depot in Lakeland on 17 December 30th and 31st of 2009 I believe. 18 And the reason I tell you that is because 19 when you met with the detectives, Wallace and Thomas, 20 several days ago, maybe a couple of weeks ago now, one 21 of the last things they spoke with you about was a 22 conversation that you had related to Greg, excuse me, 23 that you had related to Greg Smith, Todd, in those 24 conversations in the car between you and 25 Mr. Shakespeare and Ms. Moore PAGE 308 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 And at that point, near the end of the 2 interview, you said, "Well, I want to think about that 3 to remember." Near the end of your interview with the 4 detectives in Mr. Hardaway's office you essentially 5 said, "You know, I really want to think about that 6 before I misstate something." So what I want to do is 7 start with those conversations. 8 At some point prior to Mr., your last 9 seeing Mr. Shakespeare on April 3rd of 2009, at some 10 point before that do you recall having any conversation 11 with Mr. Shakespeare where he indicated, made 12 statements to you where he spoke about this white woman 13 having control of his money? 14 Let me see if I can get that -- "Abraham 15 used to come to me and say, you know, 'That white lady 16 got my money. She can do anything to me.'" Do you 17 recall Abraham making any such statements to you 18 referencing Deedee Moore? 19 A Could you repeat that over? I -- 20 Q Sure. And this is not word-for-word 21 verbatim. These are my notes from the audio interview, 22 okay? 23 A Okay. 24 Q "Abraham used to come to me and say, you 25 know, 'That white lady got my money. She can do PAGE 309 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 anything to me.'" 2 Do you remember Mr. Shakespeare making 3 any such statements to you prior to the last time you 4 saw him in reference, referring to Deedee Moore as the 5 white lady? 6 A I can't recall. I mean -- 7 Q Let me ask it this way. Without regard 8 to this specific language that I just quoted, do you 9 recall, prior to the last time that you saw 10 Mr. Shakespeare, Mr. Shakespeare expressing any concern 11 to you in any words that Deedee Moore had control of 12 the remainder of his money, all of his money? 13 A No. No, not -- I mean, not in that sense 14 or manner, no. 15 Q Okay. Do you think if you heard the 16 pertinent portion of your conversation with Gregory 17 Todd Smith that that may help refresh your memory? 18 A Yes, that would. 19 MR. PRUNER: Okay. Mr. Hardaway, 20 would -- this can be played on computer. Would 21 you have the capability to play it on your 22 computer for her? 23 MR. HARDAWAY: Sure. 24 MR. PRUNER: We'll take a break for a 25 moment. PAGE 310 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 (Off the record at 10:03 a.m. while the 2 recording was played.) 3 BY MR. PRUNER (resuming): 4 Q Okay. Ms. Haggins, for the last few 5 minutes we've listened to small portions of two audio 6 recordings. Did you recognize your voice on those? 7 A Yes, sir. 8 Q Okay. And did you recognize the voice of 9 the male who was on there? 10 A Yes, sir. 11 Q And did you recognize that as being the 12 voice of Greg Smith who you know as Todd? 13 A Yes, sir. 14 Q Okay. Having heard those portions of 15 those audio recordings, did that help refresh your 16 memory as to whether or not Mr. Shakespeare had made 17 statements to you prior to April 3rd of 2009 where he 18 spoke about that white lady having all of his money? 19 A Yes, sir. 20 Q Okay. Having that memory refreshed, what 21 can you tell us today about what Mr. Shakespeare 22 expressed to you about his thoughts or concerns about 23 Deedee Moore having access or control of his money? 24 A It was, I think the first part of the 25 money, he just came to me and asked, he wanted to go PAGE 311 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 and check, he wanted to check on it. That's the part 2 he wanted to check on it. And I told him he could go 3 to her and to ask her about your money. 4 Q Okay. First let me ask you, do you know 5 when in relation to April 3rd of 2009 he had this 6 conversation with you about the money? Even if you may 7 not know a specific date, would you be able to tell us 8 whether it was days before, weeks before, months 9 before? 10 A Months. Months. It was like at the -- 11 right at the beginning. 12 Q Okay. 13 A Right at the beginning. 14 Q And the beginning would be about when? 15 A The beginning would be, the two I'm no 16 sure, the 250 some thousand I'm not sure. It's -- I'm 17 not sure, I'm not sure on that date, that time. 18 Q Okay, that's fine. And again, I've 19 indicated to you I don't want to go big into the 20 financials, I'm more concerned about this conversation 21 where he expressed some concern about her having 22 interest in or control of or access to his monies. 23 There was a time when Abraham 24 Shakespeare, LLC, limited liability company, was 25 established? PAGE 312 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 A Uh-huh. 2 Q Are you familiar with that? 3 A Yes. 4 Q Okay. Do you know whether his statements 5 expressing his interest or concern, however you want to 6 state it, of Deedee Moore having access or interest to 7 control of his money, whether those statements were 8 made before or after that Abraham Shakespeare, LLC was 9 established and then funded with in excess of a million 10 dollar annuity from Mr. Shakespeare, do you know? 11 A I'm not exactly clear on that, but from 12 that conversation I think it was before. 13 Q Okay. So he had this conversation with 14 you before the -- 15 A Yes. 16 Q -- before his money was taken out of the 17 annuity and put into Abraham Shakespeare, LLC? 18 A No, he had received money before the 19 annuity. 20 Q Yes. 21 A Right. That was the part I'm talking 22 about. That's when he, if I'm not -- I'm not quite 23 sure, but I'm right at, I'm thinking that it was, it 24 was before. 25 Q Okay. And when I ask the questions I PAGE 313 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 guess I presumed something that I shouldn't, may not 2 have, should not have. Was it your understanding that 3 when Mr. Shakespeare used the phrase "white lady" that 4 he was, in fact, referring to Deedee Moore? 5 A Exactly. 6 Q Is that correct? 7 A Yes, sir. 8 Q Okay. 9 EXAMINATION 10 BY DET. WALLACE: 11 Q Has he referred to Deedee Moore as that 12 white lady before this conversation? I mean, is that 13 how he referred to her as? 14 A I don't want to get it wrong, you know. 15 It's just the way he talks. And he, you know, he may, 16 I don't -- he just said I thought, you know, something 17 like the white woman. So I don't want to like try to 18 figure it out. Well, figure it out, but I'm not for 19 sure because it's been way back so -- 20 MR. PRUNER: Okay. 21 MR. HARDAWAY: Okay. 22 FURTHER EXAMINATION 23 BY MR. PRUNER: 24 Q Setting aside that conversation that was 25 referred to in the audiotapes, in the weeks before PAGE 314 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 April 3rd of 2009, excuse me, when you last saw 2 Mr. Shakespeare, did Mr. Shakespeare express any 3 concern of him having difficulty getting access to any 4 of his monies that were tied up in Abraham Shakespeare, 5 LLC, whether it was controlled by Deedee Moore? 6 A No, sir. 7 Q Okay. All right. Now, moving to a 8 different conversation or a different incident 9 involving Abraham Shakespeare, do you recall anything 10 about an incident when Abraham Shakespeare went to a 11 bank to try to get some of his money? 12 He was about -- he was getting ready to 13 go to the bank to get some of his money and Deedee 14 Moore called you and said, "You've got to stall him, he 15 can't go to the bank," and but that money was only 16 referencing about $10,000? Does that incident ring a 17 bell? 18 A I'm not sure. 19 Q Okay. 20 A I'm not sure. 21 Q Okay. Let's do this then for a second. 22 If we can go off the record again and listen to a 23 portion of the very first conversation that's recorded, 24 okay? 25 A Okay. PAGE 315 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 (Recording played.) 2 BY MR. PRUNER (resuming): 3 Q Okay. Having heard a portion of the 4 audio recording of first meeting between Mr. Smith and 5 yourself, did that help refresh your recollection -- 6 A (Nods yes.) 7 Q -- as to any conversation that you may 8 have had with Deedee about where Deedee wanted to stall 9 him from going to the bank? 10 A Yes. 11 Q What can you tell us about that? 12 A Excuse me. She had called and said 13 that -- I'm not quite sure how it went so let me 14 just -- 15 Q As best as you can remember. 16 A To the best of my knowledge that I guess 17 he was going to the bank. And she say, "Call him and 18 don't let him go." And because she, evidently she had 19 given me some money, but she was saying that he didn't 20 need to go because of my understanding that she didn't 21 want him to go. So, but when I called him, I didn't 22 even tell him to go or not. He just say he was going 23 anyway. 24 Q Okay. But do you recall her saying stall 25 him so he wouldn't be going, stall him so PAGE 316 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 Mr. Shakespeare wouldn't be going to the bank? At 2 least, did she ask you that? Do you recall her doing 3 that? 4 A I don't recall. But, I mean, I remember 5 her calling and she was saying that he wanted to go but 6 I'm not -- I don't remember even though if saying to 7 stall him, I remember her saying he wanted to go. 8 Q Okay. Do you remember when that 9 conversation between you and Deedee Moore about 10 Mr. Shakespeare going to the bank and Ms. Moore not 11 wanting him to go, do you remember when that 12 conversation occurred in relation to April 3rd of 2009 13 when you last saw Mr. Shakespeare? 14 A It had to be done at the beginning when 15 he first got it, when he first put the money into the 16 account. 17 Q Okay. Would that have been 2009, 2008, 18 2007? Because, as you know, there's several accounts 19 and several -- 20 A When he got the annuity out, so it had to 21 be 2009, not -- 22 Q When he got the one million dollar 23 annuity out? 24 A Right, the annuity out. 25 Q Okay. Let me make sure I understand what PAGE 317 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 you're saying. 2 A Okay. 3 Q As I understand the transaction, that at 4 some point Mr. Shakespeare removed 1.09 -- 5 MR. HARDAWAY: 095 I believe. 6 Q -- 095 million dollars from an annuity in 7 one bank and placed it into an account that was held by 8 Abraham Shakespeare, LLC, is that what you're referring 9 to? 10 A Yes, that's it. 11 Q Okay. So Ms. Moore's, Deedee Moore's 12 conversation with you about stalling or persuading 13 Mr. Shakespeare not to go down to the bank, would that 14 have been before or after Mr. Shakespeare took the one 15 million dollars plus out of the annuity and put it in 16 LLC, the Abraham Shakespeare, LLC account? 17 A Sure, the LLC account. 18 Q Well, but I'm trying to get an idea of, 19 and I know it's kind of a long-winded question and I 20 don't want to confuse you, what I'm trying to do is 21 understand when this conversation occurred between you 22 and Deedee Moore about stalling or persuading 23 Mr. Shakespeare not to go to the bank, when that 24 occurred in relation to the time when Mr. Shakespeare 25 took the one million dollars from his annuity and PAGE 318 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 placed it into the control of Abraham Shakespeare, LLC 2 account, do you know? Did the question make sense? 3 A No. Could you repeat it because you kind 4 of lost me. 5 Q Okay. All right. What I'm trying to do 6 is get a sequence of events. We know that at some 7 point, I don't have the records in front of me so the 8 date isn't important, just the sequence, that at some 9 point Mr. Shakespeare closed out an account from an 10 annuity where he took out 1.095 million dollars and it 11 was transferred or placed into an account, a bank 12 account under the name of Abraham Shakespeare, Limited 13 Liability Company. Do you know that to have happened? 14 A Yes, sir. 15 Q Okay. So that's the event that I'm 16 trying to figure out if this conversation occurred 17 before that transfer of funds or after the transfer of 18 funds. 19 In other words, was Ms. Moore concerned 20 about preventing Mr. Shakespeare from going to the bank 21 before the million dollars was transferred to the 22 Abraham Shakespeare, LLC or after the million dollars 23 was transferred to the LLC account? 24 A After. 25 Q After? PAGE 319 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 A Yeah. Let me make sure you said after, 2 it was when he put it into the LLC. 3 Q Okay. All right. And I'm not trying to 4 beat a dead horse but I want to make sure we both 5 understand each other so the record is clear and that 6 neither you or I leave here confused about what just 7 happened because it's kind of a long-winded question. 8 Is it correct that the sequence of events 9 are as follows: That Mr. Shakespeare closes out the 10 annuity account and transfers a million, 1.095 million 11 dollars into an account held in the name of Abraham 12 Shakespeare, LLC, limited liability company, and then 13 at some point after that transfer of funds you and 14 Deedee Moore have this conversation where Ms. Moore 15 wants to, wants you to prevent or stall or discourage 16 Mr. Shakespeare from going down to the bank? Did you 17 understand that? 18 A Yes, sir. 19 Q Okay. And was that the sequence, 20 transfer of funds, from the annuity to the checking 21 account or to the Abraham, LLC? I'm sorry, let me 22 start that over. See, it's kink of long-winded. We'll 23 stop for a second, okay? 24 A Okay. 25 (A discussion was held off the record.) PAGE 320 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 BY MR. PRUNER (resuming): 2 Q All right. Ms. Haggins, we know that, 3 that the transfer in excess of a million dollars from 4 an account that was funded by Mr. Shakespeare's annuity 5 to an account that was under the control of Abraham 6 Shakespeare, LLC, that that transfer occurred on 7 February 10th of 2009. That's what the detective's 8 records review indicates. 9 So if you'll accept that as the date 10 because I know you don't have that memorized but we 11 know the records establish that. 12 Did Ms. Moore's conversation with you 13 where she wanted to either prevent or delay or stall 14 Mr. Shakespeare from going to the bank, did that 15 conversation Deedee Moore had with you on that topic 16 occur before or after February 10th of 2009 which would 17 have been the date where Shakespeare takes the million 18 dollars out and puts it in the Abraham Shakespeare, LLC 19 account? 20 A I'm not exactly sure but I think it was 21 before, before February the 10th. 22 Q Okay. 23 A I'm not, I'm not, I'm not sure. I'm not 24 sure about that. 25 Q Okay. Is there any other event or PAGE 321 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 transaction that is used as a better point of reference 2 for that conversation other than this February 10th 3 transfer of the million dollars from Shakespeare's 4 annuity account to the LLC? 5 Is there any other thing that you can use 6 as well? I know it occurred three days after this, or 7 any other point of reference? 8 A No, I'm not -- no. 9 Q Okay. Are there any documents that you 10 think you could be provided or review that may help 11 further refresh your recollection on the timing of 12 Ms. Moore's conversation with you about stalling or 13 preventing or dissuading Mr. Shakespeare from going 14 down to the bank? Is there -- I'm trying to give you 15 access to anything that will help you refresh your 16 memory. 17 A Probably the documentation because -- 18 Q The documentation of what, ma'am? 19 A What we said in the bank when he put the 20 money into the bank and we were all sitting there, you 21 know, when he put it into the bank. 22 Q When he put the million dollars? 23 A Into the bank. 24 Q Into which bank? 25 A When he put it into the Bank of America. PAGE 322 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 Q Under the LLC? 2 DET. WALLACE: That was February 10th. 3 THE WITNESS: Okay. 4 BY MR. PRUNER (resuming): 5 Q But you think if you saw those documents 6 those may help refresh your memory? 7 A Yes. Yes, sir. 8 Q Okay. All right. Then let's move off of 9 that topic, if we may, and I'll speak with your 10 attorney, Mr. Hardaway, about perhaps continuing this 11 on another day for that purpose, okay. 12 I want to move to a completely different 13 subject, one that has no, absolutely no financial 14 tie-in. There was a time a few days after April 3rd of 15 2009, which that day, remember, is the Power of 16 Attorney date. 17 A Uh-huh. 18 Q There was a time about a few days after 19 that where you were to meet Mr. Shakespeare and Deedee 20 Moore at the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa, is that 21 correct? 22 A Yes, sir. 23 Q Okay. Do you have any sense or any 24 memory of how soon after April 3rd that that occurred, 25 whether it was days or weeks or months? PAGE 323 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 A No, I don't. No, I don't. 2 Q Okay. What -- tell me what just the plan 3 was that evening. What was, what was going to happen 4 with you and Ms. Moore and Abraham Shakespeare? What 5 were your social plans that evening? 6 A Just to go to the casino. Just a night 7 out. 8 Q Okay. And how did you arrive there? 9 A I was -- I drove over. 10 Q By yourself? 11 A Yes. 12 Q And what was your understanding as to how 13 Ms. Moore, Deedee Moore and Mr. Shakespeare were to 14 arrive at the Hard Rock that night? 15 A I just got a message saying they would 16 meet me there. 17 Q Okay. Was that, what form was that 18 message, in a voicemail, a text message, do you recall? 19 A No, she talked to me, called and said, 20 "We'll meet you to the casino." 21 Q Do you recall whether there was a time 22 that you all, you, the three of you, thought you were 23 going to get together at the casino? 24 A Could you repeat that over? 25 Q Sure. Was there a specific time that you PAGE 324 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 and Deedee Moore and Abraham Shakespeare were suppposed 2 to meet up at the casino? 3 A Yes, but I don't remember the time. 4 Q Okay. Would it have been morning, 5 afternoon, evening? 6 A Evening. 7 Q Okay. And on that occasion after April 8 3rd of 2009, did Ms. Deedee Moore and Abraham 9 Shakespeare show up at the casino according to your 10 earlier plan? 11 A Nope. 12 Q Okay. About how long did you stay at the 13 casino that night by yourself? 14 A Probably about 30 minutes to 45. I can't 15 really recall. 16 Q Okay. Telephone records indicate that 17 some point at approximately two or three o'clock in the 18 morning -- 19 DET. WALLACE: 2:58, I believe. 20 Q -- 2:58 about in the morning of that very 21 next morning you got a call from Deedee Moore and it 22 was about 53 minutes, 52 minutes, a very long telephone 23 call. Do you remember that having happened? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Okay. Prior to receiving that long PAGE 325 (2089) Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 telephone call in the early morning hours of the next 2 day from Deedee Moore, did you have any other 3 conversation with Deedee either on the phone or on text 4 along the lines of, "Where are you? Why aren't you 5 guys here? What's going on?" anything like that? 6 A No. No, sir. 7 Q Okay. Did it concern you that they 8 essentially stood you up and didn't show up or in any 9 fashion? 10 A I just thought maybe they had other 11 plans. 12 Q Okay. So it didn't set off any bells? 13 A No. 14 Q All right. She calls you at 15 approximately 2:50 something in the morning and you 16 speak with her for almost an hour, and these are 17 approximates. Do you recall what she told you had 18 happened, why they didn't show up? 19 A As I can recall it's supposed to have 20 happened on the 3rd and she was calling me saying that 21 some guys came to her house looking for Abraham, three 22 guys, and that's where it lead it on. 23 I asked her why she didn't call the 24 police, because after that supposed to have happened, 25 like April 3rd, you know, and she called me and she PAGE 326 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 was still talking about that. 2 Q What was she -- I'm not understanding. 3 She called you and told you what? Did the three guys 4 come there? 5 A Well, somewhere prior to April 3rd he 6 was supposed to have had sex with a minor or something, 7 and she was supposed to have had done taken his money 8 and she was supposed to have done choked her, choked 9 the girl and she was supposed to have been in the 10 hospital. 11 And she called, she called me like the 12 next morning on that day and she was still -- then she 13 called me like, you know, three, what two or three days 14 later and said her brothers came to the house and it 15 was three guys and they was outside. So that was the 16 conversation that me and her had about that. 17 Q Okay. So that I can understand it, 18 during this long conversation in the very early morning 19 hours of the very morning after you got stood up at the 20 casino did Ms. Moore explain the reason that they 21 didn't show up because three guys had showed up at a 22 house looking for Abraham because Abraham had done 23 something to their sister or daughter? 24 A Sister. 25 Q Sister. Okay. Did Abraham -- did Deedee PAGE 327 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 tell you that there was a confrontation between the 2 three people and Abraham about that? 3 A No. She was just saying they was outside 4 her house and they was looking for him, you know, 5 saying what they was gonna do. And the conversation 6 went on and on and I kept saying, "Why you didn't call 7 the police?" I mean, you know, and they went off. She 8 never, she mentioned, never mentioned about why they 9 didn't show up. 10 Q She didn't tell you that these three guys 11 harmed Abraham that evening? 12 A (Nods no.) They was just -- she just 13 stated that they was looking for him. 14 Q Okay. And I can see you're shaking your 15 head, but is it true that she -- that no harm came to 16 Abraham that evening according to what Deedee Moore 17 told you the three guys did? 18 A None whatsoever. 19 Q Okay. All right. And you never saw 20 Abraham Shakespeare after that, is that correct? 21 A No, sir. 22 Q That's not correct? 23 A No, I haven't. No, I haven't. 24 Q You have not seen him? 25 A I have not seen him. PAGE 328 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) |
. | Abraham Shakespeare Case 02/12/2010 - Transcript of Sworn Statement of Judith Diane Haggins 09/16/2010 DISCOVERY BINDER #4 PAGES 329 to 355 1 Q Okay. Let me change gears on you again. 2 about, and talk to you about a telephone conversation, 3 telephone call that you received from Deedee Moore at 4 about 3:15 in the morning on the early morning hours of 5 January 26, 2010, which was a Tuesday morning. Do 6 you recall having a conversation at that time frame 7 with Deedee Moore? 8 A Yes, sir. 9 Q Okay. And during that conversation did 10 Deedee Moore tell you that drug dealers had shot 11 Abraham Shakespeare? 12 A Yes, sir. 13 Q Okay. Did she tell you that, in that 14 conversation, that Abraham died as a result 15 of that shooting? 16 A I'm not pretty sure. I'm not sure how 17 but she did state he was dead. 18 Q And did she indicate in that 19 conversation, she indicated -- I'm sorry, I talked over 20 you. She did say that Abraham Shakespeare was dead? 21 A Yeah, she did state that he was dead. 22 Q Okay. Did Abraham, I'm sorry, did Deedee 23 Moore in that conversation tell you that the shooting 24 happened at her house? 25 A Yes, sir. PAGE 329 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 Q Okay. But she did not specify the 2 location of which house? 3 A Right. No, sir, she didn't. 4 Q Meaning she didn't tell you if it was the 5 house on Red Hawk in Lakeland or one of the houses on 6 Highway 60, is that correct? 7 A No, she didn't give no specific address. 8 Q In that conversation do you remember 9 whether Deedee Moore told you that the drug dealer 10 wanted her to give them, the drug dealers $200,000? 11 A Yeah, she stated she wanted them to write 12 a check for $200,000. 13 Q That she wanted the drug dealers to write 14 a check? 15 A The drug dealers wanted her, excuse me, 16 wanted her to write a check for $200,000. 17 Q And did she indicate that they wanted, 18 the drug dealers wanted Deedee to get the money from 19 the bank, do you remember? 20 A She indicated that they wanted $200,000, 21 wanted her to write a check for $200,000. 22 Q And in that conversation do you recall 23 that Deedee Moore told you that Abraham Shakespeare was 24 mad because Deedee wasn't going to write that check and 25 give it to them? PAGE 330 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 A Yes, that's what she stated, yes. 2 Q Do you remember whether, anything else 3 she said that Abraham Shakespeare said during that 4 incident? 5 A She stated that Abraham was upset and mad 6 because she didn't write, give them the check for the 7 40 keys of cocaine. That's what she stated. 8 Q In that telephone conversation did Deedee 9 Moore tell you that Abraham Shakespeare had actually 10 put a gun to her head? 11 A Yes, that's what she -- yes, sir. 12 Q And that at some point Deedee Moore was 13 actually knocked out, according to what Ms. Moore told 14 you in that telephone conversation? 15 A Yes, sir. 16 Q Did she tell you who knocked her out or 17 how she got knocked out? 18 A No, she didn't. 19 Q And during that same telephone 20 conversation did Deedee Moore tell you that Abraham 21 Shakespeare, a drug dealer named Ron, Cedric, and 22 another unknown person were there? 23 A Yes, sir, and her. 24 Q And her? And did you know who Cedric was 25 that she was referring to? PAGE 331 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 A His cousin. 2 Q Abraham Shakespeare's cousin Cedric? 3 A Cedric, yes. 4 Q And in that conversation did Deedee Moore 5 tell you that Abraham Shakespeare was involved with 6 drugs and that this deal was supposed to be for 40 7 kilos of cocaine? 8 A Yes, sir. 9 Q Now, had you ever know Abraham 10 Shakespeare to be involved in either the consumption 11 the use, or dealing of drugs as long as you've ever 12 known him? 13 A No, sir. 14 Q Okay. And as I understand it, in the 16 15 years that you've know him you were a close friend or 16 an associate of Mr. Shakespeare, is that correct? 17 A Yes, sir. 18 Q Knowing Mr. Shakespeare as you did and as 19 frequently as you dealt with Mr. Shakespeare, can you 20 tell me, and this is just your opinion I know, can you 21 tell me whether you think Mr. Shakespeare could have 22 hidden from you the fact of drug use or drug dealing on 23 his part? 24 A I don't, you know, I don't think he would 25 have hid it from me because he don't, he didn't deal PAGE 332 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 with it. 2 Q Okay. And did he confide in you about 3 his personal life? 4 A Yes. 5 Q Okay. Did you know him to even drink 6 much? 7 A No, he didn't drink at all. I've see 8 him drink one beer, and he was doing it as a joke, or a 9 wine cooler I had. He took it as a joke. 10 Q All right. Have you ever even heard 11 rumors from any source, word on the street or anything, 12 that Abraham Shakespeare was a user or a dealer of 13 cocaine or any other drugs? 14 A I heard that but I heard that long years 15 ago. 16 Q Years and years ago? 17 A Yes. 18 Q Before he won the lottery? 19 A Yes. 20 Q But in the years since he had won the 21 lottery and had all this extra cash available to him 22 had you ever known him to use or deal in drugs? 23 A No, sir. 24 Q Or had you ever heard any rumors about 25 him using or dealing drugs since he won lottery? PAGE 333 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 A No, sir. 2 Q Okay. And I'm going back to the 3 telephone conversation where she's you about 4 how Mr. Shakespeare got shot. Did Ms. Moore in that 5 conversation tell you that somehow during a tussle 6 Abraham Shakespeare got shot in the upper right chest? 7 A Yes, sir, that's what she stated. 8 Q She specifically identified the location 9 where he got shot? 10 A Yes, sir. Well, let me make it clear. I 11 don't -- I was trying to make sure she said left or 12 right but I'm pretty sure she said right. 13 Q Chest? 14 A Right chest, upper right. 15 Q And in that conversation did you confront 16 Ms. Moore by asking her why she didn't tell police? 17 A Yes, sir. 18 Q Do you remember what she told you why? 19 A Yes, sir. 20 Q What did she tell you? 21 A She said they told her, they made her 22 tell, they told her -- how did she put it -- they told 23 her that she couldn't tell. 24 Q Because? 25 A They was gonna harm her. PAGE 334 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 Q Did she say anything about potential or 2 her fear of harm, them harming her son, do you recall? 3 A No, I don't recall. 4 Q Did you ever know of any friend or 5 associate of Abraham Shakespeare named Ron? 6 A No, sir. 7 Q Had Deedee Moore ever used the name Ron 8 in describing any friends or associates of Abraham 9 Shakespeare on any other occasion other than this early 10 morning telephone call that we've been talking about? 11 A No, sir. 12 Q Now, let me change subject on you again, 13 all right. And I'm referencing notes I've taken from 14 an interview I believe just on the 27th of January with 15 Detective Thomas and Detective Wallace. 16 Again, using April 3rd of 2009 as when 17 Mr. Shakespeare gave you the Power of Attorney, later 18 that month did Ms. Deedee Moore tell you that Abraham 19 had left the country to go to Jamaica to get treatment 20 for AIDS? 21 A Yes, she did. 22 Q Okay. Prior to that conversation did 23 Mr. Shakespeare ever complain to you about any health 24 problems that he had? 25 A No, he never complained. I used to just PAGE 335 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 always would talk to him about his health. He never 2 complained. 3 Q Okay. I guess what I'm trying to 4 establish is before Deedee Moore tells you sometime at 5 the end of April that Shakespeare has left the country 6 to get treatment in Jamaica for AIDS had you ever seen 7 any ailment or any signs on Mr. Shakespeare that you 8 thought that he had any type of disease or medical 9 problem that was serious? 10 A No, because I don't know what a AIDS 11 patient really looks like. 12 Q Okay. 13 A So, no, I couldn't. 14 MR. PRUNER: All right, With the 15 understanding that we may resume this once we 16 have our records together, let me as the 17 detectives if they have any questions about the 18 conversations. 19 FURTHER EXAMINATION 20 BY DET. WALLACE: 21 Q In one of the conversations with Todd or 22 Greg, however you want to refer to him -- in fact, when 23 I -- I think when I first walked in and we were 24 listening to part of it you said, "Well, if she opens 25 her mouth I'm going to have to open up my mouth, you PAGE 336 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 know, I'm going to have to talk." 2 I mean, it's hard for me, and I'm not 3 trying to be mean or hard here, Judy, but this 4 conversation was within the last month, okay. And I 5 can understand maybe not remembering exact dates or 6 exact names, but you were pretty matter of fact on 7 these conversations with Todd of, "Hey, something's 8 going on. I think there's something going on. You 9 know, I've got -- "I think at one point you said 10 something about, "I've got enough to put her in jail." 11 And that was actually on this tape. I 12 don't know at what point. You know, you talk about, 13 "If she opens her mouth then I'm going to have to 14 talk," this and that. 15 And then we get in here and we start 16 asking some of these questions and you're kind of real 17 hesitant and iffy and you don't remember this and that. 18 Well, less than a month ago you were 19 pretty dead set, you know, when you're sitting in a car 20 with Todd, who's not a law enforcement officer, you 21 know, you're just sprouting just matter of factly all 22 these things that you remember, and now when you walk 23 in here and you're kind of like, "Maybe before, maybe 24 after, maybe this and that." 25 And I mean, I don't want to feel like PAGE 337 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 you're holding out on us, you know. I mean, this is 2 your opportunity really to talk to us because, you 3 know, there's a lot of people out on the streets. 4 I'll be quite honest with you, there's a 5 lot of people involved in this, family, friends and all 6 of that, that are saying, "Hey, Deedee couldn't have 7 done this alone, you know. You all need to go after 8 Judy. You need to do this, you need to do that," you 9 know. 10 I mean, obviously it's pretty fair to 11 say, you know, Mr. Pruner wants your cooperation here. 12 I mean, he's served you with a subpoena and all that. 13 You know, this is your opportunity. 14 I mean, you were dead set talking to, you 15 know, you were very confident, you were very just 16 everything's fine, and then today you're in here 17 reserved and holding back. 18 Mr. Hardaway will tell you that this is 19 your chance to tell us what, you know, anything you 20 know, anything that you were suspectful of at that 21 point. 22 Obviously you should still be more 23 suspectful of now because we found him dead in the 24 ground, you know. It shouldn't be a matter of 25 Mr. Pruner or Detective Thomas or me trying to pull PAGE 338 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 your teeth to find out this information, you know 2 If there's things that we're not asking 3 right, you know, we don't know everything that's 4 happened here. You were there. You were there all the 5 way from the beginning, you know, when Deedee first met 6 him through whatever financial transactions to when 7 Abraham was killed to time after that, you know. 8 There's people on the streets that say, 9 "Hey, you know, Judy came up to me and told me she saw 10 Abraham in Texas. Judy told me that he was away with 11 AIDS. Judy told me this." 12 You know, I don't want to believe that 13 you were an active participant in covering up this 14 guy's murder, but, at the same time, if you'll look at 15 all this other stuff that people are saying it makes it 16 look that way, you know. So when we come in here we're 17 expecting you, hey, fill in some of these details what 18 was going on along the way. 19 Don't make Mr. Pruner have to pull your 20 teeth to find out this information, you know. You 21 should be, you should be spurting things out to him 22 right now. "Hey, this is what I saw. I saw this. I 23 saw that. Hey, here's when this, you know, I don't 24 remember the exact date but this is what happened, "you 25 know. PAGE 339 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 I think it's very important that you drop 2 the worried about yourself type of shield. I mean, 3 this is your time to tell this man everything that, you 4 know, whatever you were suspectful with with Todd and 5 when you told Todd, "Hey, is she starts talking I'm 6 going to talk." You know, this is when you need to 7 talk, you know. 8 Don't let us walk out of here today and 9 then me and Detective Thomas interveiw somebody else 10 and they tell us something that just doesn't jive with 11 what you're saying and get yourself in trouble. This 12 is the time. I mean, don't make us pull teeth to get 13 this information. 14 You know a heck of a lot more or, you 15 know, you suspected a heck of a lot more less than a 16 month ago sitting in that car, you know. I mean, it's 17 quite apparent you heard that tape. 18 A Uh-huh. 19 Q Come on. You haven't forgotten 20 everything in a month. You haven't forgotten 21 everything in a month. You're sitting there scared or 22 whatever it is, I don't know, but from that time that 23 tape was taken until now you didn't just forget 24 everything that's happened, okay, that is, "I don't 25 recall," it doesn't fly with me, it really doesn't. PAGE 340 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 I'll be honest with you. 2 A I mean, I understand with everything 3 you're saying, but it's just like I don't -- the only 4 thing that I recall that she did is, you know, and I 5 already told you about the car, she came and called me 6 again with the blood. I told you about the fence and 7 all that, you know, it's like some of the stuff I don't 8 recall. 9 I mean, I'm not trying to hide nothing 10 along -- I'm just trying to, you know, remember what I 11 can remember and, you know, and stuff. I mean, she 12 didn't never -- she turned people against me. Whether 13 you all know it or not, she turned them against me. 14 So I had to be the one that, you know, 15 that like to stay on his mom's side. So, I mean, 16 whatever she told, whatever she done she turned them 17 against me. She, I mean, she kept me at a minimum. 18 I mean, whatever I done, you know, 19 whatever I said about the only thing I could have said, 20 you know, that I could have put her there was about 21 when she called me and told me about him over the fence 22 and with the blood. 23 And that had to be right, that had to 24 happen right after the part sometime up in April. But 25 then I don't know nothing else. I mean, I'm not trying PAGE 341 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 to hide nothing back, seriously. 2 Q And I can understand that. But what I'm 3 saying is, I mean, you heard this tape. You remember 4 this conversation that happened right up there at the 5 Home Depot, you know. I was sitting three cars away 6 watching, okay. 7 There is no way over from April until 8 now, you know -- in fact, I had one person tell me that 9 you got on I think it was, I don't know if it was 10 Cedric or Tammy or somebody, that you got on the phone 11 and said, "Hey, I just talked to Abraham and he wants 12 you out of the house right now," you know. 13 That there were things that you've done 14 along the way to make it sound like you had talked to 15 Abraham, you know. So, you know, there's no way 16 Abraham Shakespeare that you talked to on a daily basis 17 up through April 6th and then after that you don't talk 18 to him at all, not at all. 19 You had to have been suspicious of what's 20 going on. You had to have been suspicious. There had 21 to have been things that happened along the way that 22 you saw because after April 6th guess who you talked to 23 every day? Deedee Moore, you know. 24 There were things going on and she was 25 doing a lot of things to make a lot of people think PAGE 342 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 that he was alive, okay. And she put enough faith in 2 Todd, I mean, obviously it's clear now that Todd was on 3 our side. Todd, you know, made these recordings. He 4 made recordings with Deedee Moore, okay. 5 Here's a guy that she didn't have daily 6 contact with, okay, she wasn't, she didn't have a great 7 long relationship with, you know, she put her faith in 8 him and told him a lot of things, you know. And it's 9 almost hard for me to believe that somewhere along the 10 line she didn't put more faith in you. 11 Because I'm telling you, you were 12 talking, I've got the phone records, you guys talked on 13 a daily basis, sometimes, you know, three, four, five, 14 six, seven, ten times a day at certain points. You 15 guys talked all the time. 16 Now, she puts enough faith in Todd to say 17 this stuff, but you, who by all account is the most, 18 one of her biggest confidantes or a person that she has 19 confidence in, you don't have any suspicion over a 20 seven-month period that you haven't talked to Abraham 21 Shakespeare, that you haven't heard anything, that his 22 mom hasn't heard anything. 23 But a month ago when Todd's sitting in 24 the parking lot with you at Home Depot, "Yeah, 25 something ain't right, Todd. Something ain't right." PAGE 343 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 But now we know he's dead and now you're, "No, I don't 2 have those suspicions." Well, I don't understand. 3 A Well, like I say, I mean, she kept me out 4 of it. She wouldn't tell me. She only told me nothing 5 really, that just mostly if someone called about his 6 mom she'll ask me to go to the mom's house. 7 I mean, like I'm saying, they know me. 8 They know I didn't deal in drama. She knew I didn't 9 deal in drama so she would turn the people against me. 10 I mean, when it came to her she knew how I felt about, 11 you know, calling me with all that. 12 I'd be like, "That's you all with that 13 drama, don't call me with it." She knew how I was so 14 she made sure she only just kept me to a limit. If I 15 have known more I would be glad to tell more, but I 16 don't know more, don't know nothing else. 17 MR. PRUNER: Okay. Well, let's, if, 18 Mr. Haraway, you can get an idea of what 19 records she's specifically referring to then 20 we'll talk and perhaps continue with this on 21 another date to get time references and time 22 frames. 23 MR. HARDAWAY: Yeah. The only thing I'm 24 going to ask or say at this point was one of the 25 questions that you asked her regarding the PAGE 344 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 threats that the drug dealers had made to her, 2 particularly. They had -- and I'm talking about 3 the instance where she was, I think it was the, 4 it may have been January 27th and we were in 5 here together. 6 I believe Judy did tell Detectives 7 Wallace and Thomas that one of the threats was 8 that if she told that they would harm her 9 children or something. So I do recall you 10 saying that and on this statement you indicated 11 that he didn't say that. 12 THE WITNESS: Oh, I thought she was 13 talking -- I thought he was talking about her 14 son, her family. 15 DET. THOMAS: Yes. 16 MR. PRUNER: Yes. 17 THE WITNESS: So you're saying her family 18 or -- 19 MR. HARDAWAY: No, it was her family. 20 THE WITNESS: Her family? 21 MR. PRUNER: Deedee Moore's family. 22 THE WITNESS: Deedee Moore's family, that 23 I made the statement? 24 FURTHER EXAMINATION 25 BY MR. PRUNER: PAGE 345 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 Q The question is during this telephone 2 call on January 26th in the early morning hours where 3 she told you that Abraham Shakespeare was dead and gave 4 you this long account of how it happened, when she was 5 explaining to you why she didn't go up to the police, 6 what did she tell you as far as what she feared would 7 happen? Who would be harmed if she did? 8 A She said Ron, the guy Ron was telling her 9 what to tell me and what to say. If she told or went 10 to the police he would harm they family, her family, 11 her son. Yeah, that's what she said Ron. Yeah, Ron. 12 MR. PRUNER: Okay. All Right. 13 EXAMINATION 14 BY DET. THOMAS: 15 Q Just a real quick question. Going back 16 to the night that you all were supposed to meet at the 17 Hard Rock Casino and you go there and Deedee and 18 Abraham Shakespeare do not show up, so basically they 19 stood you up, and then we know later she calls you and 20 gives you this story of this issue with this girl that 21 he was with and he caught her stealing money and her 22 brothers came to the house, that kind of thing. 23 A Uh-huh. 24 Q Going back to the actual plans to go to 25 the Hard Rock Casino, was that something you all had PAGE 346 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 done before? 2 A Yes, sir. 3 Q Okay. Was that a usual thing where the 4 three of you all would go to the Hard Rock Casino? 5 A Yeah. Well, they would call me every now 6 and then. She just always get Abraham rooms to the 7 casino. 8 Q Rooms there at the casino? 9 A Uh-huh. 10 Q And the three of you all would go there? 11 A Huh-uh, I would meet them. He would stay 12 overnight. I would meet them. And we done been there 13 probably approximately, I can't really recall, but we 14 have been there more than three times together. 15 Q The three of you? 16 A Right, the three of us, right. 17 Q Okay. And what would take place, just 18 gambling, having dinner, what? 19 A That's all. Well, he ain't gonna spend 20 no money so it was like me and her probably was 21 gambling and he would just walk around and we would 22 eat. We would eat, yeah. 23 MR. PRUNER: He wasn't a gambler? 24 THE WITNESS: No, he wasn't. No, he 25 wasn't. We would, you know, we would gamble PAGE 347 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 CERTIFICATE OF OATH 2 STATE OF FLORIDA 3 COUNTY OF HILLSBOROUGH 4 I, the undersigned authority, certify that 5 JUDITH DIANE HAGGINS personally appeared before me and 6 and was duly sworn. 7 WITNESS my hand and official seal this 10th day 8 of March, 2010. 9 _________________________ 10 RALPH D. MILLS, CVR, CP 11 Notary Public, State of Florida 12 Commission No. DD659841 13 Expires: May 2, 2011 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 PAGE 348 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 2 STATE OF FLORIDA 3 COUNTY OF HILLSBOROUGH 4 I, RALPH D. MILLS, CVR, CP, certify that 5 I was authorized to and did report the foregoing 6 deposition of JUDITH DIANE HAGGINS, and that the 7 transcript is a true and complete record of my 8 stenomask notes thereof. 9 I further certify that I am not a 10 relative, employee, attorney, or counsel of any of the 11 parties, nor am I a relative or employee of any of the 12 parties' attorney or counsel connected with the action, 13 nor am I financially interested in the action. 14 DATED this 10th day of March, 2010. 15 ____________________ 16 RALPH D. MILLS, CVR, CP 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 PAGE 349 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 but, no, he wasn't a gambler. 2 BY DET. THOMAS (resuming): 3 Q So going back to when the plan were 4 made, was it her idea to go on this particular night 5 that she and Abraham did not show up? 6 A You know, that's something I can't 7 answer. All I know is she called me and say, "We gonna 8 go to the Hard Rock tonight," so I was game for it, you 9 know. 10 Q So it wasn't like a red flag saying, oh, 11 that's kind of weird because you all had been there 12 before together several times? 13 A Right. 14 DET. THOMAS: Okay. 15 FURTHER EXAMINATION 16 BY DET. WALLACE: 17 Q Okay. All right. Have you ever not -- 18 have you ever had plans to go and then them not show 19 up? 20 MR. PRUNER: Then Deedee and Shakespeare 21 not show up? 22 BY DET. WALLACE (resuming): 23 Q Right, that Deedee -- 24 A No, that was the first time, the first time 25 That was the first time they never did show up. PAGE 350 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 Q And I think phone records show, I don't 2 have them here with me right this second, but I think 3 the phone records show that you tried to call her a few 4 times that night? 5 A That night, right. 6 Q Did she ever answer? Did you ever talk 7 to her? Did she ever say, "Hey, we're not coming," 8 or-- 9 A I can't recall, but I know I did kept 10 trying to call her. 11 Q All right. Did you try to call Abraham 12 that night, do you recall? 13 A I think I did. I'm not for sure but I 14 think I did. I'm not for sure but I know I tried to, I 15 know I tried to call both of them, I think I did. I 16 think, I really think I did. I'm not too sure but I 17 did try, I know I tried her more than once. 18 Q Prior to that day had you ever been to 19 the two houses over on Highway 60 in Plant City? 20 A Only the one. 21 Q Only the one. What house? 22 A The flat one. 23 Q When did you go to that house? 24 A I want to say in October before 25 between -- I went over to see Howard to sign, they PAGE 351 Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 wanted me to sign some papers. 2 Q Was he working out of the one-story house 3 at that point? 4 A Right. Right, yes, sir. 5 Q Have you ever been back there since that 6 time? 7 A No. 8 Q That's the only one time you've ever been 9 to those houses? 10 A That one time. 11 Q And when you went who did you go with? 12 A I drove over. 13 Q You drove over by yourself? 14 A Yes. 15 Q Okay. And none of your family members 16 have any idea where those houses are at? 17 A No. 18 Q Okay. 19 A But I have been there before, though, 20 prior to that to the house. 21 Q Prior? 22 A I have been. Me, Abraham, and her went 23 there. I went there, me and Abraham went there before, 24 before Howard moved into the building. 25 Q Okay. But since that time you've never PAGE 352 (1940) Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 been back over to those houses? 2 A No. 3 Q How many times would you say you've 4 totally been over, in total been over there? 5 A Probably twice with Abraham and once by 6 myself. 7 Q And when you went with Abraham it was 8 just to see Deedee, it wasn't -- 9 A Yeah, it was just to see -- we just had 10 got, you know, started meeting, you know, just going 11 over there. It was just to see her. 12 Q Was that when her office was in there? 13 A Supposedly had, yes. Yeah, because she 14 was still, she was showing us how she supposed to be 15 remodeling it and everything. 16 Q Was the paintball field there at that 17 time? 18 A I'm not actually sure, but I remember her 19 telling us about the paintball field. 20 Q What did she tell you about the paintball 21 field? 22 A That she, she wanted to know once she 23 gets started I would help her, you know, help her with 24 it. And she had like a trailer on it, and when we got 25 there she was showing us all the field and all the PAGE 353 (1941) Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 stuff. But I never seen any stuff out there where it 2 was worked on. 3 Q Uh-huh. 4 A But she kept saying they was getting 5 finished, it was getting finished. 6 Q Was there any plans ever for that. for 7 Abraham to purchase that paintball field or to run that 8 paintball field for her? 9 A Well, Detective Wallace, I'm no actually 10 accurate on that, but I do know when she like first met 11 us she talked about the paintball field. 12 Q Right. To your knowledge, to your 13 knowledge -- 14 A To my knowledge I don't think he was 15 supposed to have anything to do with it. 16 Q Okay. 17 A But once he got his license, now, him and 18 Deedee became more closer than anything. 19 Q After you quit driving? 20 A After I quit driving. 21 DET. WALLACE: Okay. 22 MR. PRUNER: All right. Thank you for 23 your cooperation, ma'am. 24 THE WITNESS: Okay. 25 MR. PRUNER: I'm sure we'll talk. PAGE 354 (1942) Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) 1 MR. HARDAWAY: Sure. 2 (The sworn statement was concluded at 3 11:15 a.m.) 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 PAGE 355 (1943) Mills Reporting Group, Inc. (813) 272-1814) |
| 01/06/10 - Transcript of Controlled Phone Call of Gregory Smith and Judith Haggins Transcribed to text by www.acandyrose.com from .pdf file Binder #5 Public Discovery 09/16/2010 |
Abraham Shakespeare Case 01/06/10 - Transcript of Controlled Phone Call of Gregory Smith and Judith Haggins 09/16/2010 Discovery Binder # 5 Pages 152 - 154 SHERIFF GRADY JUDD POLK COUNTY 455 N. Broadway Bartow, FL 33830-3998 Phone:863.534.6200 www.polksheriff.org BUREAU OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION HOMICIDE UNIT TO: STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FROM: DETECTIVE WALLACE CLASSIFICATION: 1st DEGREE MURDER Attached, please find a copy of the following typed transcript taken from the CONTROLLED PHONE CALL OF GREGORY SMITH AND JUDY HAGGINS on JANUARY 06, 2010 in reference to case number 2009-112920. LEEANN M. JONES transcribed this statement on MARCH 4, 2010 This tape statement took approximately 6 MINUTES to type. "SEVEN STAR ACCREDITED AGENCY" PAGE 152 (2315) |
. | Abraham Shakespeare Case 01/06/10 - Transcript of Controlled Phone Call of Gregory Smith and Judith Haggins 09/16/2010 Discovery Binder # 5 Pages 152 - 154 Statement of CONTROLLED PHONE CALL G. SMITH J. HAGGINS CASE NUMBER 2009-112920 1st DEGREE MURDER SUSPECT: JUDY HAGGINS WITNESS: GREG SMITH HAGGINS: Oh you jumped in the car and jumped out and, and I thought maybe the people was after you'll. SMITH: Okay HAGGINS: Always calling me and trying to see if we okay. SMITH: Yea HAGGINS: That's what I tell'em. SMITH: Okay 498238 HAGGINS: Yea let me check on it and I'm gonna call you back and tell you if that's exact the number. I'm gonna check right now. SMITH: And she say she need the he say he need to talk to her and he can't talk on the phone. HAGGINS: Right he said it's very important you need to come out here now. SMITH: So she must be done call him up and on the fake voice or had somebody to call him. HAGGINS: Well she got his phone number programmed in. SMITH: Okay Page 1 of 2 PAGE 153 (2316) HAGGINS: That for him to tell me that and my son don't play about no bullshit and it look like I'm being mother fucking followed. SMITH: Okay so go on go on and do that and call me back HAGGINS: Alright let me do that and call you back. SMITH: Alright Page 2 of 2 PAGE 154 (2317) |
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