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Gary Olivia

Gary Oliva
AKA
“Thomas Aquinas”
“The Saint”
“Churchmouse”

Gary Olivia at Anniversary Vigil

2001-05-21: Smit Offers 'SUSPECT' List In JonBenet Slaying (Rocky Mountain News)

"A man who showed up at a memorial service for JonBenet a year after her death. The man has a criminal history, including the sexual assault of a 7-year-old girl in Oregon, Gray said. Records indicate the man once tried to strangle his mother with a telephone cord. Around the time of the murder, he was getting food and picking up mail at a church near the Ramsey home. When arrested on an unrelated charge in December, officials found a stun gun and a poem about JonBenet in his backpack. Gray said Boulder police may be conducting DNA analysis on the man."

2001-12-00: Ghost of Christmas Past (http://www.boulderweekly.com)
Obsessed reporter reveals dark under world behind Ramsey case

"Eventually, the disturbed man found his way to Boulder and fell under suspicion after Boulder police learned he had broken into a building at CU. Looking through the transient's backpack, police found a stun gun and a poem he'd written about JonBenet and Susannah Chase.

Eventually, I learned that Aquinas and I had crossed paths at JonBenet's home during a one-year anniversary vigil for the girl. Photographs taken by private investigators working for the Ramseys revealed that Aquinas was in the front row, holding a folder sealed tightly with a strip of smooth, black duct tape. Authorities seem to have lost track of Aquinas, and at least one private investigator working on the case says he'd love to find the man."

2002-10-04: CBS 48 Hours Investigates - Searching for a Killer

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Why do they believe he was in the neighborhood the night JonBenet was murdered?"

Michael: "He called me on the phone."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Because of this man and a phone call he got from Gary Oliva."

Michael: "He related to me that he had done something horrible."

"Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Why didn't authorities take a sex offender like Oliva more serious" Just this week Boulder Police said Oliva is not a suspect. Sources say his DNA doesn't match evidence at the scene."

2002-10-05: Taped interviews released by parents of slain 6-year-old - http://www.bouldernews.com/

"The Ramseys told "48 Hours" that police have repeatedly ignored many promising leads in the case, including the investigation into Gary Oliva — a 38-year-old Oregon man currently in Boulder County Jail. Oliva, a convicted sex offender awaiting extradition back to Oregon for parole violation, told a friend he had hurt a child around the time of JonBenet's death and also could be placed near the crime scene the night of the murder, according to the TV show.

Lou Smit, a homicide investigator from Colorado Springs who once worked for Boulder prosecutors on the Ramsey case, said he thinks an intruder killed the girl, and in the program Smit pointed his finger at Oliva. He said the fact that Oliva had a stun gun, a weapon Smit said was used on JonBenet the night she was killed, is a telling clue.

In a jailhouse interview with "48 Hours," Oliva denied that he had killed JonBenet, but he said she came to him in a vision after her death.

Beckner said Oliva was a suspect and had not been cleared by police.

"We haven't cleared anyone per se. Before you solve the case, you can't say anyone has been cleared," he said. "I think we've been very careful at not doing that at all."

2002-11-10: Jameson's www.webbsleuths.com Q&A for Erin Moriarty of CBS 48Hours

Q: 10. I take it that he knows about his friend "Michael" bringing up the tapes and the "sobbing" i hurt a little girl phone call. I understand he claims he doesn't remember making the tapes. What about the phone call? Does he deny that?
A: He didn't actually deny making the tapes, later he admitted that he thought that was his voice. He also admitted that he made the phone call but claimed he was crying about the first child he hurt. When I asked him why he would call his friend Michael to tell him about a child that Michael already knew about..he didn't have an answer. he said that JonBenét's death reminded of hurting the seven-year-old in Oregon.

Q: It is my understanding that, originally, you planned to air some information on another individual, Helgoth, which was tabled to cover the investigation into Oliva. I can understand this, but also wonder if you will show the Helgoth material? Do you plan to follow up on either person, or others?
A: actually there were a number of individuals we had thought about discussing but ran out of time. I don't know if there will be a follow up. Remember, we weren't trying to bring up "suspects"...just show the leads that the Boulder police didn't follow up.

2004-12-18 CBS 48 Hours Mystery - JonBenet: Prime Suspects

Erin Moriarty: I have to ask you this though, did you hurt or kill JonBenet Ramsey?

Gary Oliva: No, (looking straight into the camera) no I didn't

Erin Moriarty: Oliva has also provided a DNA sample, which again doesn't match evidence in the Ramsey case

Gary Oliva: They told me I'm clear.

Erin Moriarty: But in fact the Boulder District Attorney investigators haven't completely ruled anyone out and have a list of people they'd like to talk to, reportedly more than 100 names.

RECAP OF INFORMATION ABOUT GARY OLIVA:

01. Transient collected his mail at the St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic Church on 14th Street
02. He showed up at one year memorial service vigil for JonBenet in Boulder
03. At vigil, he was holding a folder sealed tightly with a strip of smooth, black duct tape
04. He has a criminal history, including the sexual assault of a 7-year-old girl in Oregon
05. He once tried to strangle his mother with a telephone cord
06. Officials found a stun gun and a poem about JonBenet in his backpack
07. Boulder police learned he had broken into a building at CU
08. Picked up in 2000 and was arrested for drug possession
09. Oliva has also provided a DNA sample, which again doesn't match evidence
10. Oliva turned himself into BPD, extradition back to Oregon for parole violation
11. Oliva said he turned himself in because he was tired of being on the run
12. Oliva's High School friend, Michael revealed tape recordings of Oliva's dark side
13. Michael said Oliva called him just days after murder, sobbing, said he had hurt a child
14. Michael said he left all his information on the Boulder police tip line
15. Oliva said JonBenet came to him in a vision after her death.
16. Oliva JonBenét's death reminded of hurting the seven-year-old in Oregon
17. Oliva is an artist, and cartoonist
18. Oliva admits to an obsession with JonBenet.
19. Jameson (Webbsleuths): Oliva also used the last names Perellis and Sabetta
20. Jameson (Webbsleuths): Warrant outstanding in one of those names (Jefferson County)
21. Jameson (Webbsleuths): Photo of JonBenet was in a Celestial Seasonings tin

CHAIN OF EVENTS 2001

2001-05-21: SMIT OFFERS `SUSPECT' LIST IN JONBENET SLAYING

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4946895,00.html
Rocky Mountain News (CO)
May 21, 2001

SMIT OFFERS `SUSPECT' LIST IN JONBENET SLAYING
Author: Todd Hartman
News Staff Writer
Edition: Final
Section: Local
Page: 5A
Index Terms:
MURDER INVESTIGATION SUSPECT SUICIDE
Estimated printed pages: 4

Article Text:

If an intruder killed JonBenet Ramsey, then who was it?

Two weeks ago, veteran detective Lou Smit went public with evidence of his intruder theory without identifying any suspects in the December 1996 murder.

But he and a Ramsey-hired investigator on the case say suspects are out there who haven't been thoroughly investigated by Boulder police.

They say they've interviewed friends, relatives and associates of potential suspects who Boulder police never talked to and have provided detailed leads that authorities haven't pursued.

``The only attention they are giving to any leads that come into them is to say `We've investigated them and eliminated them,' '' said Ollie Gray, who was hired by the Ramseys 16 months ago and works closely with Smit.

Boulder police would not respond to the accusation, but in the past have said they have thoroughly pursued every viable lead in the case.

Gray spent 25 years in law enforcement in Texas and California before becoming a private investigator. Smit, who handled more than 200 homicide investigations in the Colorado Springs area, was hired to help the Boulder district attorney with the case in early 1997. He quit 18 months later, saying he was concerned that authorities were wrongly zeroing in on the Ramseys.

Gray and Smit say authorities need to take a harder look at several possible suspects, including:

* A Boulder County man who committed suicide on Feb. 14, 1997, the day then-Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter publicly announced to the killer: ``You will pay for what you've done to this beautiful little girl.'' Photos of the suicide scene show a stun gun near the body. Smit believes a stun gun was used on JonBenet. The dead man also owned Hi-Tec boots. A Hi-Tec boot print was found in mold growing on the basement floor near JonBenet's body.

In addition, a short video clip of a Channel 4 newscast was found amid his belongings. The May 1993 newscast began with the discovery of the body of Alie Berrelez, a 5-year-old who was kidnapped from her Englewood home and found dead four days later in a duffel bag in Deer Creek Canyon in Jefferson County. No one ever was charged in the case.

* A man who showed up at a memorial service for JonBenet a year after her death. The man has a criminal history, including the sexual assault of a 7-year-old girl in Oregon, Gray said. Records indicate the man once tried to strangle his mother with a telephone cord. Around the time of the murder, he was getting food and picking up mail at a church near the Ramsey home. When arrested on an unrelated charge in December, officials found a stun gun and a poem about JonBenet in his backpack. Gray said Boulder police may be conducting DNA analysis on the man.

* A man living in a suburb east of Boulder who an informant said had a basement shrine to JonBenet. The shrine included a candy cane similar to the candy canes in the Ramsey's front yard at the time of the murder. The tipster also said the man owned stun guns. Gray said, to his knowledge, Boulder police have never contacted the tipster since Gray provided authorities with the information.

* A man who said he killed JonBenet in an e-mail last October to Gray, Ramsey attorney Lin Wood and John Ramsey, as well as in phone calls to John Ramsey. Gray said he believes the man is probably running a scam because he sought money as part of his contact. But he passed the information on to Boulder police anyway because the man knew intimate details about the Ramsey home that Gray didn't believe had been made public.

He said he provided Boulder police a 52-page document with leads last May and a follow-up document in October. Last month, Ramsey attorney Wood mailed Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner more information collected by Gray.

Boulder police already were aware of some of the names he provided, Gray said, but he urged further investigation. In some cases, he said, he has checked back with tipsters or friends and relatives of potential suspects only to find Boulder police never contacted them.

``I would question the thoroughness of their investigation and their actual effort to select other potential suspects, suspects with histories,'' he said.

Beckner didn't return a phone call seeking his response to the complaint. But in previous comments and press releases, Beckner has said Boulder police have investigated about 140 people as possible suspects - including more than 50 convicted sex offenders - and that the Ramsey investigation has taken detectives to 17 states.

In a recent interview with the News, Beckner didn't go into detail about progress in the investigation, describing it as stop-and-go. Some of it was simply waiting on laboratory tests, he said.

``Sometimes we get information on somebody, that somebody needs to be looked at,'' Beckner said. ``Somebody calls in information, then we have detectives investigate that. And it may develop into some more work that needs to be done. It kind of comes and goes based on what's going on at the time.''

In an April press release, the police department said it would not respond to Smit's intruder theory, adding, ``the case and development of evidence has changed significantly'' since Smit left his role with the District Attorney's Office in the fall of 1998.

In the release, the police said they had interviewed ``more than 600'' people in the case. In a June 1998 press release, the department said it had interviewed 590 people, suggesting investigators had talked to 10 or more people since the grand jury disbanded without an indictment in October of 1999.

Beckner has said publicly that the man who committed suicide was eliminated as a potential suspect. Police said the man's boots didn't match the print left in the Ramsey basement and his DNA didn't match the unknown DNA found under JonBenet's fingernails or in her panties.

Gray questions those conclusions.

He said police never have said exactly how the boots didn't match, and he said he interviewed two former girlfriends of the man who said they never spoke with Boulder police.

Gray said one of the women told him she had once become angry with the man because she found him naked under bedsheets with her young daughter on the covers above.

As for DNA, Gray asks why police would eliminate him on that basis but won't eliminate John and Patsy for the same reason. Their DNA doesn't match either, according to police.

``If (police) cleared him on DNA, that's fine,'' said Gray. ``Why not the Ramseys?''

LIB5

Memo:
Contact Todd Hartman at (303) 892-5048 or hartmant@RockyMountainNews.com.
Copyright (c) 2001 Rocky Mountain News
Record Number: 0105220016

2001-12-00: Ghost of Christmas Past
Obsessed reporter reveals dark under world behind Ramsey case

Ghost of Christmas Past
Obsessed reporter reveals dark under world behind Ramsey case
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by Jeffrey Scott Shapiro (Editorial@boulderweekly.com)

More on this article here:
http://www.boulderweekly.com/archive/122001/coverstory.html

EXCERPT FROM ARTICLE RE: THE SAINT

The Saint

"Thomas Aquinas" was a transient. A paranoid schizophrenic who collected his mail at the St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic Church on 14th Street, only a block from the Ramsey home. Oregon law enforcement authorities say he tried to strangle his mother, and he managed to make Oregon's registered sex offender list in 1991 for molesting a young girl. He later spent time in a mental health facility.

Eventually, the disturbed man found his way to Boulder and fell under suspicion after Boulder police learned he had broken into a building at CU. Looking through the transient's backpack, police found a stun gun and a poem he'd written about JonBenet and Susannah Chase.

Eventually, I learned that Aquinas and I had crossed paths at JonBenet's home during a one-year anniversary vigil for the girl. Photographs taken by private investigators working for the Ramseys revealed that Aquinas was in the front row, holding a folder sealed tightly with a strip of smooth, black duct tape. Authorities seem to have lost track of Aquinas, and at least one private investigator working on the case says he'd love to find the man."

CHAIN OF EVENTS 2002

2002-10-04 48 Hours Investigates - Searching for a Killer

Lesley Stahl: "Police in Boulder Colorado should have taken a closer look at but they haven't say the critics because police remain focused on JonBenet's parents as the prime suspects in her murder.

Erin Moriarty has been following up on several leads persuade by the Ramsey's investigators and focuses in now on one man with a frightening past."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "On a cold December night that marked the one year anniversary of JonBenet's murder, dozen of mourners showed up for a candle light vigil outside the Ramsey home. One man in particular caught investigator Lou Smit's eye."

Lou Smit: "Criminals do return to the scene and that was the anniversary and that puts him right there at the Ramsey house a year later."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "He's Gary Oliva, a thirty eight year old a convicted sex offender from Oregon who lives in Boulder."

Lou Smit: "He definitely is a sex offender for assaulting another seven year old girl in Oregon; he spent time in prison for that."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Smit is convinced that a pedophile came into the Ramsey home and killed their daughter."

Lou Smit: "On my computer I probably got 25 good leads and I probably have another 50 pages of other leads to follow."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Among the files he's keeping on sex offenders in Boulder, Gary Oliva's stands out. In 1991, the year after he sexually assaulted the little girl, police reports say he tried to strangle his mother with a telephone cord."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "In December 1996, Oliva may have been just only few houses from JonBenet's bedroom window."

Erin Moriarty: "This is the alley behind?"

Ollie Gray: "This the alley that runs behind the Ramsey's home, leads into the back yard, the garage area"

John Sangustine: "It was not uncommon for JonBenet and Burke to ride their bicycles around the alley way."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "John Sangustine and Ollie Gray, the Ramsey's private investigators say that Oliva frequented these buildings owned by a local church"

Ollie Gray: "A lot of transient people come here for food and to pick up their mail."

Erin Moriarty: "But why is this relevant?"

Ollie Gray: "The Ramsey home is what, ten houses?"

Erin Moriarty: "Right up this alley."

Ollie Gray: "Right up this alley."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Why do they believe he was in the neighborhood the night JonBenet was murdered?"

Michael: "He called me on the phone."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Because of this man and a phone call he got from Gary Oliva."

Michael: "He related to me that he had done something horrible."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "He asked us to identify him only as Michael, Gary Oliva's best friend from high school"

Michael: "He mentioned he was in Boulder in the phone call."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "The call Michael says came just days after the Ramsey murder. Gary told him he had hurt a child."

Michael: "He was just sobbing like you never heard a grown man sob or cry before in your life and I knew it was serious."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "So serious that Michael living in a nearby state called the Boulder police."

Erin Moriarty: "What made you connect that phone call and your friend and the murder in Colorado?"

Michael: "The things he told me in the phone call .... the cassette tapes."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "These cassette tapes."

Michael: "Look how many tapes, I've got four times as many tapes as this."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "After high school, Michael and Gary thought a fun way to keep in touch was through audio tapes"

Michael: "I'd go to Carl's Diner (??) and interview somebody, he'd go to a store and interview a macaroon cookie, stupid stuff."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "But in 1989 Gary's tapes, once amusing changed dramatically"

Michael: "The tapes got darker, a song with lyrics I can't repeat, more depraved and sicker. On this tape it sounds like he is killing an animal. It would turn my stomach. On this tape he talks about necrophilia. This ain't about a macaroon cookie anymore. This isn't funny anymore. On this tape you have....."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "What you're about to hear on this tape according to Michael is Oliva's at his worst pretending he is left alone to baby-sit a friend's daughter."

Michael: "Oh you can't play this on camera"

Erin Moriarty: "Why?"

Michael: "Oh he's talking about raping a little girl on camera. Oh this one makes me sick"

Gary Oliva (From Michaels cassette tapes) "How are you doing Roonette?"

Little girl (From Michaels cassette tapes) "Hi"

Gary Oliva From Michaels cassette tapes) "Why don't you come over here and sit on my lap and let me touch your back, how do you like that?"

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "On another tape he talks about hurting a child"

Gary Oliva (From Michaels cassette tapes) "Things I do like making bacon strips out of little girls, I'm into it you know, being a sick dog"

Erin Moriarty: "And this wasn't a joke?"

Michael: "These tape are not a joke at all. If you listen to these cassette tapes you got to do something if you're a human being. I mean you have to."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Michael said he left all his information on the Boulder police tip line"

Michael: "And told them about the cassette tapes. I told them about the phone call. I mentioned I had handwriting samples"

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "What did Boulder Police do with this tip? Nothing. According to Lou Smit, the police didn't follow up on 95% of the more than 3,000 phone tips that came in. In Oliva's case, they didn't investigate him until nearly four years after JonBenet Ramsey's death, when he was caught with drugs and guess with what else? A stun gun."

Erin Moriarty: "Did you ever use that stun gun on a child?"

Gary Oliva: "No"

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Oliva, who is wanted in Oregon for parole violations, turned himself into the Boulder Police two weeks ago."

Erin Moriarty: (Talking to Gary Oliva) "Did you hurt or kill JonBenet Ramsey?"

Gary Oliva: "No" (as he shakes his head no then he turned facing directly into the camera and repeats) "No, I didn't"

Erin Moriarty: "Didn't you tell your friend you were attracted to little girls?"

Gary Oliva: "I don't think I want to answer that."

Erin Moriarty: "Did you live in Boulder at the time JonBenet was killed?"

Gary Oliva: "Yeah"

Erin Moriarty: "Just down the street?"

Gary Oliva: "Yeah"

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "While Oliva says he doesn't remember making the disturbing audio tapes, what he will admit to is an obsession with JonBenet. "

Gary Oliva: "I believe she came to me after she was killed and revealed herself to me."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "As it turns out we are not the only ones interested in Oliva. Police officers showed up to take notes"

Alex Hunter: "I would be concerned if any lead was not taken to fully ground."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Former Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter said police tried to follow up on pedophiles but admits that early on the force was clearly overwhelmed."

Erin Moriarty: "Didn't your office have to tell police officers you got to look at these other leads, that you can't just focus on the Ramsey's?"

Alex Hunter: (Talking to 48 Hours) "Well it was said, probably not in quite that language but yes."

Erin Moriarty: (Voice Over) "Why didn't authorities take a sex offender like Oliva more serious"

Just this week Boulder Police said Oliva is not a suspect. Sources say his DNA doesn't match evidence at the scene."

2002-10-05: ACandyRose Internet Subculture Forum
Thread, "8:05 in East, any1 watching 48 hours?"

From: jtcolfax@hotmail.com (JTCOLFAX) 10:37 am
To: ACandyRose (15 of 16)
1504.15 in reply to 1504.9

i don't know...we might have had to get a boddle in une brown paper bag and sit under a bridge....we might have been too loud to be in public....you are right about the spin spin spin....basically the ramseys got ONE FREE block of 35 minutes of network time to rehash all thier old points, simply by the fact that the network could then throw on thier NEW thing: Oliva....it was so wierd to look into that lil visiting room again....I used to WORK in that room for 6 or more hours a day...assembling products for outside companies like COWGIRL FACE CREAM.....old Lancey Loo Retton did too.....we'd put the labels on jars of 'spensive face cream....I used to write, "this product handled by inmate number #etc etc at the Ramsey County Jail" on the inside sticky parts of the labels so that once someone would start using the product and deplete it's supply in the bottle it would start showing later....

From: jtcolfax@hotmail.com (JTCOLFAX) 10:56 am
To: jtcolfax@hotmail.com (JTCOLFAX) (16 of 16)
1504.16 in reply to 1504.15

in other news after reading all the posts now.....my mind kept going back to something someone told me early on in my jail expereince and i MUST have written about in the early letters from jail...a guard named LINDA told me that SHE called LOU SMIT with the info about a guy appearing at the vigil...i remember it specifically having to do with the guy being a boyfriend of one of the female inmates...but also that the guy was known as a frequent jail visitor....i think linda saw him on tv....then she called Blue Lou...it must be on the colfax letters,...my modem is so slow now....i try to look it up,..but can only FIGURE it has to be in fairly early letters....since nothing APPEARED to be happening with it,..I might not have made much of a production of it...I believe I heard Linda Rogers retired from the sherriff's department....i'm gonna try to find an old mention of mine of this...

I do recall that MUCH later, on the day I met BLUE LOU, I was going to lunch or dinner and made the OFFHAND remark to Linda that I met a friend of hers today...and she came to my table in the dining room, and when I told her it was LOU SMIT she hustled me out into the hallway to hear more....it seemed to me like she was CONCERNED for ME that LOU SMIT showed up at my hearing,...but she may have also feared that her name came up,..but I never discussed this guy or her telling me about this with them....and TIME marching on also makes me have to WONDER if it IS this guy (OLIVA) that I am recalling this thing about or if there was someone ELSE,...but this sure SOUNDS like what I heard about from Linda.....

EDITED to add:.....oh,..and auntie,...the comment about "lil miss spark plug" was incredible.....you are a gay man in a woman's body for sure.....and also,..to anyone out there who wants to DIGG DIGG DIGG....you can be the first on your block to WRTITE to Monsewer OLIVA if you want to,....you don't need any inmate number or anything like that.....just his name,...and send it to c/o THE BOULDER COUNTY JAIL, 3200 Airport Road, Boulder Co 80301.........give it a shot...and tell us about it....
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Edited 10/5/2002 11:02:25 AM ET by jtcolfax@hotmail.com (JTCOLFAX)

2002-10-05: Taped interviews released by parents of slain 6-year-old

http://www.bouldernews.com/
Special on Ramsey case airs
Taped interviews released by parents of slain 6-year-old

By Christine Reid, Camera Staff Writer
October 5, 2002

John and Patsy Ramsey, appearing on an hourlong television special Friday night, chastised the Boulder Police Department for its investigation into the 1996 murder of their daughter JonBenet Ramsey.

The CBS show "48 Hours Investigates" aired videotaped police interviews with the slain 6-year-old's parents. The tapes — released by John and Patsy Ramsey, they said, to help shed light on the case — showed interviews from April 1997, June 1998 and August 2000.

"I didn't do it. John Ramsey didn't do it. And we don't have a clue of anyone who did it," Patsy Ramsey said in one clip from a 1998 interview at the Broomfield Police Department.

"You're going down the wrong path, buddy," she told one investigator as he theorized that a Ramsey family member committed the crime.

"It didn't happen," she said.

Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner was also shown in a videotaped deposition for a related civil case. Beckner said John and Patsy Ramsey were suspects "internally" in their daughter's Dec. 26, 1996, murder.

Beckner would not comment Friday night on his statement because of a confidentiality agreement, he said. He also would not comment on the show because he did not watch it, he said, instead opting to get some grocery shopping done.

"It's always frustrating when that happens, when only one side of the story is being told," Beckner said. "But we have a job to do and have to keep our focus on what's best for the investigation, and it's our belief you don't investigate cases through the media."

The Ramseys told "48 Hours" that police have repeatedly ignored many promising leads in the case, including the investigation into Gary Oliva — a 38-year-old Oregon man currently in Boulder County Jail. Oliva, a convicted sex offender awaiting extradition back to Oregon for parole violation, told a friend he had hurt a child around the time of JonBenet's death and also could be placed near the crime scene the night of the murder, according to the TV show.

Lou Smit, a homicide investigator from Colorado Springs who once worked for Boulder prosecutors on the Ramsey case, said he thinks an intruder killed the girl, and in the program Smit pointed his finger at Oliva. He said the fact that Oliva had a stun gun, a weapon Smit said was used on JonBenet the night she was killed, is a telling clue.

In a jailhouse interview with "48 Hours," Oliva denied that he had killed JonBenet, but he said she came to him in a vision after her death.

Beckner said Oliva was a suspect and had not been cleared by police.

"We haven't cleared anyone per se. Before you solve the case, you can't say anyone has been cleared," he said. "I think we've been very careful at not doing that at all."

Boulder County District Attorney Mary Keenan was attending a meeting at a retreat and was unable to watch the program. She said Thursday that she planned on having someone tape it for her so she could watch it later.

Contact reporter Christine Reid at (303) 473-1355 or
reidc@dailycamera.com.

2002-10-08: Jameson posted on Webbsleuths that
Oliva also used last names Perellis and Sabetta

Gary Oliva - Face In the Crowd

jameson
Charter Member
11735 posts Oct-08-02, 01:12 PM (EST)

1. "The Celestial Seasonings tin"
In response to message #0

CBS didn't talk about how he kept a photo of JBR in a Celestial Seasonings tin.

They didn't say that he used other names that might be of interest to people - - he used the last names Perellis and Sabetta. He had a warrant outstanding against at least one of those names (Jefferson County)

They only had an hour - - I think they did a real good job of making him a "person of interest".

I am equally sure that Beckner and his minions are going to work overtime trying NOT to be interested.

What if it was YOUR daughter, or granddaughter, in her grave?

Would you want the police to refuse to continue an aggresive investigation into all reasonable leads?

2002-11-10: Jameson's www.webbsleuths.com
Q&A for Erin Moriarty, Thread titled, "Gary Oliva"

jameson
unregistered user
Nov-10-02, 09:40 AM (EST)

11. "Erin Moriarty answered some questions"
In response to message #10

Answers from Erin Moriarty"

Erin has started to answer our questions and will get back to more in a few days - - she has to attend to real life.

Here are her answers...

BraveHeart asked:

1. What led to Oliva living on the street? When?
Oliva violated parole ( he had been convicted of sexually assaulting a little girl and attacking his mom) by moving from Oregon to Boulder...he didn't always live on the street in Boulder..sometimes he worked in a restaurant..but he moved there in 1992...until present. His friend Michael does not know what changed him...

6. What are his interests? Movies? Books? What kind?
he is apparently very smart and an artist, cartoonist.

7. Did he serve in the armed forces?
no

Try out for any police force in years past?
not that I am aware of.

8. The black tape on his folio in the anniversary photo-where did that come from? What was in the folio?
don't know where tape came from..nor what was in the folio altho' when he was picked up in 2000, he had a picture of JonBenét Ramsey and a poem about both JonBenét and Suzanna Chase.

9. Did he attend college? What were his interests?
don't know.

10. I take it that he knows about his friend "Michael" bringing up the tapes and the "sobbing" i hurt a little girl phone call. I understand he claims he doesn't remember making the tapes. What about the phone call? Does he deny that?
He didn't actually deny making the tapes, later he admitted that he thought that was his voice. He also admitted that he made the phone call but claimed he was crying about the first child he hurt. When I asked him why he would call his friend Michael to tell him about a child that Michael already knew about..he didn't have an answer. he said that JonBenét's death reminded of hurting the seven-year-old in Oregon.

11. Have the Oregon police indicated whether or not they will be testing his dna? I would think so as he may be a suspect in some other crimes there.
Oliva's DNA is on file in Oregon.

12. Do you have any of his handwriting samples dating from 1996 or before?
yes.

mommyof2 asked:

Is Gary Oliva interested or involved in Satanic worship? If so, did he practice any ritual on the Satanic holiday of December 22nd?
don't know but he has some pretty scary tapes.

BraveHeart again:

It is my understanding that, originally, you planned to air some information on another individual, Helgoth, which was tabled to cover the investigation into Oliva. I can understand this, but also wonder if you will show the Helgoth material? Do you plan to follow up on either person, or others?
actually there were a number of individuals we had thought about discussing but ran out of time. I don't know if there will be a follow up. Remember, we weren't trying to bring up "suspects"...just show the leads that the Boulder police didn't follow up.

"Erin Moriarty: "Did you ever use that stun gun on a child?"
Gary Oliva: "No""

Questions for Mr. Oliva, if you talk to him again:

1. Did you ever use **ANY** stun gun on a child, or anyone else, a woman?
agree.

2. Why did you strangle your mother? Did you use a garrote? Do you have a problem with women?
he used a telephone cord. I think it is pretty clear he has a problem with women.

3. Why would JonBenét "show herself" to you? Why after her death? How did this occur? A dream? A vision? Did you see her, or just hear her talking? What do you think this means?
he says a dream..I'm not a psychologist so I don't know if he is telling the truth or not.

4. What kind of a person do you think killed JonBenét? Were they trying to tell us something? How do you think they did it? Do you think it was an accident-a sex "game" that got out of hand?
Not my expertise.

Maikai posted, "A lot of questions on Oliva and Michael but I think that goes beyond what you can answer. I rewatched the first 48 hour special where Foster was exposed. So..here are my questions:

l. Would Michael be willing to answer questions from us?
don't know--would have to ask him.

2. Do you know why Oliva turned himself in....and why did he agree to be interviewed on TV?
he says he turned himself in because he was tired of being on the run.

Was he paid?
Absolutely NOT!

I believe the Boulder Police Dept. issued a warrant in 2000---and all of a sudden he turns himself in?
he was actually brought in in 2000 and didn't show up at a subsequent meeting...

3. Could you ask the Boulder Police Department if the cigarette butts they took in as evidence were tested for DNA? Oliva asked for a cigarette on his way out.
they won't respond to any of our questions.

4. How far do you think you can go with this? You've done 2 specials--anymore planned?
not at this moment..we will do more if we have news to report!

5. What made you interested in revealing the "rest of the story" in the Ramsey case?
I'm a reporter.

jameson posted "The poem"

ODE TO JON BENET

Patty Ramsey smashed her head
Daddy Ramsey made sure she was dead.
Patty Ramsey wrote the note, while
Daddy Ramsey held her throat.
Then they decided they must save face, so they
paid the Boulder Police to bludgeon Susanna Chase.

CHAIN OF EVENTS 2004

2004-12-18 CBS 48 Hours Mystery - JonBenet: Prime Suspects
Produced by Josh Gelman and Doug Linghini

Transcript and screen captures done by ACandyRose and below portion only includes section where "Gary Oliva" was featured. (For full transcript of this show, click on link above)

Erin Moriarty: And now the same DNA that saved the Ramseys from indictment is finally being used to check out the dozens and dozens of suspects who were ignored for years. 48 Hours has learned that investigators are now doing what they call a "grab and swab." Using a simple cotton swab like this, they are tracking down people of interest and demanding a DNA sample from the inside of their mouths. Those people of interest make up an incredable lineup of misfits and criminals who all have one thing in common, a bizarre fascination with a six year old beauty queen.

Gary Oliva: I started cutting out some of her pictures and eventually I made a little shrine for her.

Erin Moriarty: Another man investigators said should have been looked at eight years ago is Gary Oliva.

Gary Oliva: When you see the footage of her in her little cowboy suit saying I want to be a cowboys sweetheart and all that, I've never seen anything like it.

JonBenet: I want to be a cowboys sweetheart, I want to bump and grind.

Gary Oliva: It struck me in a way I've never been struck before. "I believe she was a genius at the age of 6."

Erin Moriarty: 48 Hours spoke to Oliva in 2002

Gary Oliva: I believe she came to me after she was killed and revealed herself to me.

Erin Moriarty: He's a convicted pedophile who use to hang around the Ramseys old neighborhood.

You were living in Boulder when JonBenet was killed?

Gary Oliva: Yeah

Erin Moriarty: Just down the steet?

Gary Oliva: Yeah, about I don't know about 8 blocks or so

Erin Moriarty: Oliva was clearly obsessed with JonBenet Ramsey. Here he is seen at candlelight vigil shortly after her death. Once more, four years later when he was arrested for drug possession, police found a stun gun in his back pack.

Erin Moriarty: Did you ever use that stun gun on a child?

Gary Oliva: No

Erin Moriarty: I have to ask you this though, did you hurt or kill JonBenet Ramsey

Gary Oliva: No, (looking straight into the camera) no I didn't

Erin Moriarty: Oliva has also provided a DNA sample, which again doesn't match evidence in the Ramsey case

Gary Oliva: They told me I'm clear.

Erin Moriarty: But in fact the Boulder District Attorney investigators haven't completely ruled anyone out and have a list of people they'd like to talk to, reportedly more than 100 names.

Lou Smit: Just so many, so many people, their all alphabetical, everyone of them

Erin Moriarty: It's a list that still includes Gary Oliva and anyone who can shed more light on the mysterious death of Michael Helgoth and that includes their friends and associates that investigators strongly consider people of interest.

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